Michael, thank you for the offer of AFS access to a checked-out 21.2. This would of course be the easiest way for me to access the latest betas. Could you send me the cell name, DB server names (I don't think they're in our CellServDB) and the directory path? I'll also try (remote) CVS when I have enough time (-> means *never* ... ;-) ) to dig deeper into this stuff, although I really *did* say "firewall" and am aware that it might not be that easy to set up ... On the other hand, the tarballs are made available quite frequently (at least in my opinion), so for the moment I stick with them and wait for the next one - BTW: Does anybody know when b20 is planned to be released ...? :-) --- Markus Alt IBM Laboratory Boeblingen, Germany Workplace: 71032-19-171 sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) on 08/20/99 10:31:40 AM Please respond to sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) To: xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org cc: (bcc: Markus Alt/Germany/IBM) Subject: Re: No gutter visible under AIX / X11 MA> Thanks for the advice! I think, for the moment I'll stay with the tarballs MA> as setting up efs to use cvs seems to be not that simple for our MA> site Actually, this won't work at all, and isn't meant to be. You pretty much have to use remote CVS. I can offer AFS access to a checked-out 21.2 which is updated reasonably frequently. (Usually at least every beta.) -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla