Mats, I was reading the README in /usr/local/share/xemacs-21.5.b31/etc, and they talk about an option called "install-bootstrap-packages" and I was wondering if that is a possible mechanism for getting the two packages installed for bootstrapping the rest of the package system? Not sure, just thought I would point it out. The README continues: "you may choose what packages you wish to include in bootstrap.tar.gz, but to make list-packages work you need to include at least xemacs-base, dired, and efs. The tarball should unpack directly as an xemacs-packages tree (and optionaly, a mule-packages tree." I was wondering if we included just the 2 (or 3) files they mention, but no others, would that be a way to get the package system up enough to be able to get it going? As a side note, I was able to install without dired, so I am not sure if that is needed to actually install the package system--didn't seem to need it. Steve Mitchell _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta