hi, there is binary package for xemacs on suse ＠ https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=xemacs&project=M17N if you look, there are several patches that get applied to XEmacs. I wonder if these have been brought to any one's attention, and if they are rubbish, distribution specific, or maybe some that should go up stream? I see from the file name some date back to version 21.4 List of patches: Patch0: xemacs.patch This patch seems to be a mixed bag, adds some "safeopen" function to mmencode.c, redefined pop to pop3 on linux in pop.c, adds exit 1 to failing mktemp call in vcdiff, maybe contains some useful terminal key bindings or maybe not? and definitely looks like some useless bits and some distro customization Patch3: xemacs-app-defaults.patch - this is most likely distro-specific, sets some default fonts for the menu or so? Patch18: xemacs-21.4.8-xevent.patch - uses XLookupString instead of XLookupKeysym in src/event-Xt.c, might this be a real fix for some problem? Patch20: xemacs-21.4.13-ppc64.patch - adds a m/powerpc64.h file Patch23: xemacs-ptmx.dif - move some getpt() code in src/process-unix.c, possibly prefering openpty? Patch27: xemacs-level3.patch - adds codes for XK_Num_Lock and XK_ISO_Lock to event-Xt.c Patch28: xemacs-21.5.18-movemail.patch - makes "fatal" function take 3 arguments in movemail.c Patch32: do-not-create-backups-in-temp-directories.patch Patch33: set-locale-to-c-when-not-supported-by-x.patch Patch39: xemacs-tinfo.dif - adds some checks for ncursesw to configure.ac Patch43: set-language-unicode-precedence-list.patch - messes with chinese and japanese mule charset lists Patch45: fix-defface-custom-modified-face.patch - replace :bold with :bold t in cus-edit.el Patch50: menus-always-utf8.patch Patch51: bnc502716-fontmenu.patch Patch52: bnc502716-xft.patch Patch53: xemacs-21.5.31-array.patch - changes a loop in mule-wnnfns.c to do len-- first, might this be a real bug? Patch56: xemacs-libpng15.patch Patch292811: bugzilla-292811-make-x-make-font-bold-italic-xft-work.patch Patch301352: bugzilla-301352-fix-wrong-incrementing-in-macros.patch - move ic++ outside of macro in mule-ccl.el, maybe just a style nitpick? I don't understand a lot or any of these patches so I would be interested in the experienced XEmacs hackers' opinions. I have summarized some of the patch contents where I can approximately tell what it does. In some other cases, the patch file name gives a pretty good idea of what it is doing. Yet in some cases I have no clue what it is doing. I would especially like to know if any of the patches are actually breaking XEmacs in some subtle way (remember the Debian random number generator ;-)). Thanks, Nei _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta