Hey guys, I've been an enthusiastic and faithful xemacs user und apostel for many years now and always liked it very much. But now I have some complains w.r.t. version 21.0: I occoasionally check www.xemacs.org and today I found the announcment that v 21.0 is available. I downloaded it and compiled it -- fine. But then the trouble began. * I did not know of your new concept of packages -- so my "old" stuff in .emacs failed miserably. Very bad -- you should _SCREAM_ at us on the front page of www.xemacs.org and in all INSTALL/README files that we additionally need to install packages, before our "normal" xemacs stuff will work. * Ok -- so I figured that out. But then came the blow: In the info to packages, you make references to the node EFS, without distributing that node with the info files. You recommend that with EFS, package downloading and installation is easy -- but you do not put the EFS package in the core distribution. I tried all your methods for downloading packages and installing packages from within Xemacs, but always get the message: "Package-get entries not pgp signed: Coninue?" -- confirming, I get "Symbol's value as variable is void: allow-remote-paths" So, all that said, please either do not announce and make available v 21.0, or fix these simple problems. My users here at my site will lynch me, otherwise, if I install 21.0 for them on our machines. Thanks, Olaf