Got the following when building against fresh packages dir from the binary tarballs: Building finder database ... ^G xemacs exiting.Opening input file: Permission denied, /usr/local/lib/xemacs/pack ages/lisp/gnus/md5.el gmake: *** [lisp/finder-inf.el] Error 255 This is output from gtar tzvf packages/binar-packages/gnus-1.16.tar.gz: -rw-rw-r-- steve/xemacs 5351 1998-06-01 13:10 lisp/gnus/mailheader.elc -rw------- steve/xemacs 16648 1998-06-01 13:05 lisp/gnus/md5.el -rw-r--r-- steve/xemacs 129839 1998-06-01 13:05 lisp/gnus/message.el The uid of the person building XEmacs must be the same as the owner of md5.el or the build fails (unless of course, you remeber to change permissions befor building.) -- Paul Keusemann pkeusem(a)visi.com 4266 Joppa Court (612) 894-7805 Savage, MN 55378