I did not set `debug-ignored-errors', so it was nil. what I was observing: (with debug-ignored-errors = nil; debug-on-error = t): when I type <insert an undefined key sequence here> **nothing happens** - no ding, no backtrace, just plain *nothing*. what was the rationale? What I see there is what I get for free in Emacs. I guess I'll just remove the comments and re-dump. That's what the GPL is for, right? :-) As for the packages: - I got xemacs-base and efs and installed the rest via `pui-list-packages'. * I had to install vm and mh-e, which I will never use, but which are required by some other packaged I wanted - which ones?! - I am getting (4) (warning/warning) Autoload error in: /usr/src/xemacs/packs/lisp/text-modes/auto-autoloads: Symbol's value as variable is void: flyspell-mode-map in `*Warnings-Show*', I think this was discussed here before. - I am getting Signaling: (void-variable last-buffer-undo-list) (eq last-buffer-undo-list nil) ) (or (eq buffer-undo-list t) (eq last-buffer-undo-list nil) (not (or ... ...)) (or (eq buffer-undo-list pending-undo-list) (eq ... pending-undo-list))) ) (not (or (eq buffer-undo-list t) (eq last-buffer-undo-list nil) (not ...) (or ... ...))) ) make-frame((user-size t user-position t reverse nil minibuffer nil cursor-type bar scroll-bar-width 12 mouse-color "magenta" foreground-color "DarkSlateBlue" background-color "lightgray" cursor-color "Blue" minibuffer nil cursor-type bar scroll-bar-width 12 mouse-color "magenta" foreground-color "DarkSlateBlue" background-color "lightgray" cursor-color "Blue" height 40 width 80 minibuffer t left 591 top 415 border-width 0 internal-border-width 4 border-color "#000000000000" ...)) frame-notice-user-settings() byte-code("..." [abbreviate-file-name default-directory expand-file-name format "%s%d-%s" auto-save-list-file-prefix emacs-pid system-name auto-save-list-file-name run-hooks emacs-startup-hook term-setup-hook nil frame-notice-user-settings window-setup-hook] 6) normal-top-level() on startup (I am not getting this with -q) and I am at a loss as to what would cause this. I did not observe this before, and `last-buffer-undo-list' is not present in my .emacs. -- Sam Steingold (http://www.goems.com/~sds) running RedHat5.1 GNU/Linux Micros**t is not the answer. Micros**t is a question, and the answer is Linux, (http://www.linux.org) the choice of the GNU (http://www.gnu.org) generation. I'm a Lisp variable -- bind me!