12:52 p.m.
Hi Mats!
Just had a look at your smoketest log page... eww, lots of red. :-(
I can't reproduce the 21.4 and 21.5 failures here.
What version of GNU/make you are using to build the packages with? It
looks to me like your make doesn't grok the $(value foo) that I put
into the Mule-UCS Makefile.
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1:11 p.m.
>>>> Steve wrote:
Steve> Just had a look at your smoketest log page... eww, lots of
Steve> red. :-(
True.
Steve> I can't reproduce the 21.4 and 21.5 failures here
OK.
Steve> What version of GNU/make you are using to build the packages
Steve> with? It looks to me like your make doesn't grok the $(value
Steve> foo) that I put into the Mule-UCS Makefile.
I'm using GNU Make version 3.79.1.
Yours
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5:11 a.m.
|--==> "ML" == Mats Lidell <matsl(a)contactor.se> writes:
ML> I'm using GNU Make version 3.79.1.
That should work.
Now I'm waiting for it to update again. Mats, how often is it
supposed to update, I can't see any sequence to it...
2003-04-11_13-17
2003-04-10_14-02
2003-04-10_12-28
2003-04-09_19-02
2003-04-04_11-01
Updated: Sat Apr 12 02:01:14 CEST 2003
One run on the 4th, one on the 9th, two on the 10th, one on the 11th.
I don't understand.
Also, Mats, what is you local time in relation to GMT?
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8:53 p.m.
>>>> Steve wrote:
Steve> That should work.
Fine.
Steve> Now I'm waiting for it to update again. Mats, how often is it
Steve> supposed to update, I can't see any sequence to it...
[...]
Steve> One run on the 4th, one on the 9th, two on the 10th, one on the
Steve> 11th. I don't understand.
The idea is that after a change in CVS you would see an updated
web-page in an hour (or two ;-)
But the data is really confusing (because I have had problems with the
automatic build.) You are entitled to an explanation. Here goes:
It works like this. Once an hour the build is started if there isn't a
job going on already. The build starts with a check out from CVS. If
there are no new files the build stops at that point. No need to build
anything if there are no new files. After the build completes the
web-page is generated from the log- and tail-files.
So when there is nothing new in CVS the "updated" time on the web-page
will be e few minutes past. When the packages are built the "updated"
time will indicate how many minutes the complete build took. So by
just looking at the web-page you can normally see if the smoketest is
feeling good or not.
Now this is when everything goes well. As you might remember I'm
having problems with the cronjob hanging. This occurs sometimes when
there are build errors. Not all errors cause the job to hang and not
for all xemacsen.
I haven't found a good way to avoid this so at times I must manually
kill hanging xemacs-processes etc. I normally try though to run the
build again, this time from a shell, to generate the "real" log. This
always work and there is no hanging processes when running the
smoketest this way. (Actually this gave me an idea of an alternative
way of running the build that would avoid the cron-job-hanging thing.)
I also run the build manually at times when I change the build scripts
that could cause a new build even though there are no new files in CVS.
Steve> Also, Mats, what is you local time in relation to GMT?
GMT+1. Server is located in Stockholm.
(As of this writing I'm having the first four builds OK so I'm looking
forward now to seeing the first all-six-green-builds coming up in a
few minutes.)
Yours
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12:46 a.m.
>>>> Mats wrote:
Mats> The idea is that after a change in CVS you would see an updated
Mats> web-page in an hour (or two ;-)
I'm currently playing with running the smoketest by a simple script
instead of using crontab. The script simply sleeps quarter of an hour
after the previous attempt.
Mats> (As of this writing I'm having the first four builds OK so I'm
Mats> looking forward now to seeing the first all-six-green-builds
Mats> coming up in a few minutes.)
Well it is time for celebration. The first all-green-build was just
seen. Now lets keep it that way!
Yours
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10:06 p.m.
|--==> "ML" == Mats Lidell <matsl(a)contactor.se> writes:
>>>>>Steve wrote:
Steve> Now I'm waiting
for it to update again. Mats, how often is it
Steve> supposed to update, I can't see any sequence to it...
ML> The idea is that after a change in CVS you would see an updated
ML> web-page in an hour (or two ;-)
Doesn't happen.
ML> It works like this. Once an hour the build is started if there
ML> isn't a job going on already. The build starts with a check out
ML> from CVS. If there are no new files the build stops at that
ML> point. No need to build anything if there are no new files.
Shouldn't that be "if there are no *changed* files"?
Steve> Also, Mats, what is you local time in relation to GMT?
ML> GMT+1. Server is located in Stockholm.
Cool, thanks. Maybe you could state that in the "Last Updated" line
on the web page, something line:
"Last updated: 2003-04-14 03:15 (GMT+1)"
I don't know about other people, but that would make it easier for me
to determine how far away a new build might be. :-)
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10:15 p.m.
|--==> "ML" == Mats Lidell <matsl(a)contactor.se> writes:
ML> Well it is time for celebration. The first all-green-build was
ML> just seen. Now lets keep it that way!
It's just a pity that it is wrong. Your 21.5 and 21.4 Mule builds are
not building Latin-Unity or Mule-UCS. :-(
Could you do me a favour, Mats? Try building those two packages
manually with 21.5 and 21.4 Mule and let me know what happens. Just
do a 'make distclean' & 'make' in the Latin-Unity & Mule-UCS
directories.
If they don't build (you get a message saying the package isn't
supported in XEmacs < 21.4), could you do the make again and this time
use the '-d' option to make and send me the output.
Thanks, Mats.
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9:09 a.m.
>>>> Steve wrote:
Steve> Doesn't happen.
Well my idea to use a script didn't cut it either. The build hung
today again.
Steve> Shouldn't that be "if there are no *changed* files"?
oops! That is what I meant with "new" files. If files are updated
during cvs update the build is started. (There are some files that are
ignored because they are generated _and_ in CVS which causes cvs
update to always think that they are updated.)
Steve> Cool, thanks. Maybe you could state that in the "Last Updated"
Steve> line on the web page, something line:
OK.
Yours
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