Ar an naoiú lá de mí Deireadh Fómhair, scríobh Stephen J. Turnbull: In this case they are. If a language environment uses a feature that we *cannot* provide, in the normal scheme of things, then it is broken. We can influence whether the input methods are available a lot more comprehensively than we can whether ispell is available. I don’t disagree with you on this. I do think that this particular test is more important than the conceptual cleanliness of the core/packages distinction, given that *the bug it tests for was ignored for eight years*. Most open source coders don’t care about internationalisation, which is part of why Microsoft has won the OS wars, and this is important. I would love to have the latter as an option, but 21.4 doesn’t seriously support UTF-8, and that’s necessary for the Darwin-specific file name stuff to work; also, I am really not in a hurry to add posix-charset-to-coding-system-hash to 21.4. Maybe it’ll work, maybe it won’t. Yes it is. The language environments are dumped; they’re in the binary; if they are incoherent, they are an error in the binary. Skip-Test-Unless is what happens when the packages are not installed, and the user is to interpret it then as meaning that all is well. That conflicts strongly with people interpreting it in other contexts as meaning that it is an error. Not any clearer than the current test suite failure. The user doesn’t care that much about the input method. The user’s keyboard generates the characters that the user uses already [except of course when the user is using a TTY and the high bit is interpreted as meta!] because the user uses other applications with those characters too. This check is mainly about the quailty of *our* code. And Christ, a test failure that is trivially resolved is not that fucking important. -- On the quay of the little Black Sea port, where the rescued pair came once more into contact with civilization, Dobrinton was bitten by a dog which was assumed to be mad, though it may only have been indiscriminating. (Saki) _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta