-BP> Seconded. Calling someone by just their last name is -BP> considered by some to be very rude. Yeah; too used to academic citation style (and I've forgotten how to deal with English politeness). Is that also a confirmation of Michael's impression that Richard would be more comfortable with "RMS" and that's how he introduces himself? -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."