I tried to update packages, and I got the dreaded "seems not a pty" message. Updating packages had been working flawlessly for me for months. I did everything I could think of to get the package list, until it occurred to me to try doing ftp at the shell: Doh! Now package list works fine. It would be great if the "ftp: ftp/tcp: unknown service" message from ftp could get out to the user. Seems not a pty isn't a terribly useful error message, particularly when the *ftp* process crashed on startup. I will eventually, in the fullness of time[1], track this down. But, hopefully, somebody else more familiar with package & efs code could improve this. -jeff Footnotes: [1] measured relative to proton decay.