At 14:47 02/12/98 +0100, Jan Vroonhof wrote: That's what I put in the docstring, but it was a slight misnomer in that as a side effect it updated installed packages to the latest version. As I remember package-get-update-all didn't do this for some reason. I don't really care which is called but I think you should be able to update all your installed packages from the menubar (probably the most common thing you would want to do over time) rather than go into a package manager of some description. Custom probably is a bad way although I think the effect is correct (packages added / removed from the menubar). Although by that argument you could argue that custom is bad period - custom is after all the standard way of configuring emacs. No the set should be the same. andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp