Then again, maybe those programs fell out of favor due to the author(s) not responding to the wishes of its user base. I doubt the reason for a program's decline can be attributed only to changes in keybindings. A program must either evolve or become a legacy product. Personally, I think making DEL delete forward like C-d is the right thing to do. But as long as it is configurable, I could care less. It always surprises me how the smallest changes provoke the most debate. I see this all the time on the FreeBSD mailing lists. If someone wants to rewrite the kernel from scratch, no one says a word, but if someone wants to add an option to "ls", it provokes weeks of debate. -- Richard Coleman coleman(a)math.gatech.edu