Aidan> That was it. What a mindless default configuration setting. I agree, but I don't think it is default, although I can't find a quick way to determine that. Do you have good reason to believe it's default, besides you're sure that _you_ would _never_ have set it? ;-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

Aidan> I just subscribed to, and unsubscribed from, xemacs-winnt, Aidan> using aidan at this domain as my address. Once I received Aidan> the password, I went straight to the mailman options page, Aidan> and no-dupes was set. Thanks for your good humor; you were right---but not any more. ;-) The great majority of subscribers do not have it set; I guess what happened is that at migration from 2.0.13 to 2.1.5 the default was _not_ applied to existing members. If anybody has a strong opinion and reasoned arguments about which way (either way) the default should be set, please write to list-manager(a)xemacs.org. Although I personally think it better if the user does the filtering by default, we can change it. I do think that our welcome message should warn about the implications for filtering, etc., if we do set it up that way. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.