2:31 a.m.
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In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 3) "Academic Rigor" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Thu May 17
2001 on SHALOM
configured using `configure UNKNOWN'
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:
I'm trying to use gnus 5.8.8 with the option pop3-leave-mail-on-server
to leave mail on the pop server. This requires using the pop3.el from
mail-lib. However, I'm getting errors in writing the .uidls.old file
that pop3.el uses to keep track of which messages have been read.
At the suggestion of Simon Josefsson, I tried this simple experiment,
which *did* give me an error:
Simon Josefsson <jas(a)extundo.com> writes:
[...]
Can you reproduce this with:
xemacs -q -no-init-file
C-x C-f ~/foo RET foo C-x C-s
and then switch to *scratch* and evaluate:
(copy-file "~/foo" "~/foo.old" t t)
If so, I'd say this is a XEmacs bug, M-x report-xemacs-bug RET is your
friend.
This gives me:
I/O error: No such file or directory, d:\HOME\foo.old
but it *does* create foo.old! Weird.
Any clues on this? I get similar errors when I try to use Franklin
Lee's epop3mail package, though this works flawlessly with gnu emacs
21.1.
Thanks,
-pd
Recent keystrokes:
o . o l d " SPC t SPC t SPC BS ) C-j C-j BS BS C-j
misc-user BS C-j BS BS ) C-x d ~ / RET C-s f o o C-n
d x y e s RET q C-j C-x d ~ / RET M-< y up misc-user
q M-x r e p o r t SPC x e SPC m a c s SPC M-BS M-BS
x e m SPC b u SPC BS BS SPC SPC r e p o SPC M-BS M-BS
r e p o SPC SPC r SPC e SPC SPC RET
Recent messages (most recent first):
Parsing d:\HOME\.mailrc...
Loading emacsbug...done
Loading emacsbug...
Making completion list...
Making completion list...
Making completion list...
Making completion list...
Reading directory d:\HOME\...done
Reading directory d:\HOME\...
Subdirectory ~\ has changed on disk. Re-list? (y or n) Yes
3:26 a.m.
>>>> "pd" == pd <pd(a)world.std.com>
writes:
pd> However, I'm getting errors in writing the .uidls.old file
pd> that pop3.el uses to keep track of which messages have been
pd> read.
Windows file handling seems to be remarkably hard. Lots of patches
recently.
pd> In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 3) "Academic Rigor" [Lucid]
pd> (i586-pc-win32) of Thu May 17 2001 on SHALOM configured using
pd> `configure UNKNOWN'
I strongly suggest you upgrade to 21.4.6 (Windows).
If that doesn't help, try the Cygwin version.
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6:26 p.m.
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
pd> In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 3) "Academic Rigor"
[Lucid]
pd> (i586-pc-win32) of Thu May 17 2001 on SHALOM configured using
pd> `configure UNKNOWN'
I strongly suggest you upgrade to 21.4.6 (Windows).
That solved the problem, I was told. Good. But, know that we know
this, and probably can't think of a workaround to put into pop3.el to
make it work with older XEmacsen -- should this information somehow be
encoded into the package? I mean, pop3 from mail-lib will fail with
the same error the next time someone tries to use it with XEmacs <=
21.4.3 on Windows. When a user with an old XEmacs upgrades mail-lib,
there could be some post-install notes in a buffer stating that
pop3.el does not work reliably with the XEmacs that she is currently
using, and that she should upgrade.
I'm not saying we should do anything now, I am just bringing up this
question for long-term pondering, since this problem will have to be
solved sooner or later -- someday a package will come along that
requires XEmacs vX.Y, and that older XEmacsen should preferably not by
default allow the user to install such packages, since they won't
work.
3:46 a.m.
>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson
<jas(a)extundo.com> writes:
Simon> probably can't think of a workaround to put into pop3.el to
Simon> make it work with older XEmacsen -- should this information
Simon> somehow be encoded into the package?
I think what we should do is put version testing code into pop3.el.
It would be a lot of effort to have a central registry for this mind
of thing.
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University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN
Don't ask how you can "do" free software business;
ask what your business can "do for" free software.
5:19 a.m.
There were a bunch of fixes to file support post patch 3. I suggest you try
the latest version of XEmacs - 21.4.6.
andy
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 6:31 PM
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Subject: Can't use mail-lib pop3 on Windows NT or 2000
This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team,
not to your local site managers!!
Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.
In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 3) "Academic Rigor" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32)
of Thu May 17 2001 on SHALOM
configured using `configure UNKNOWN'
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:
I'm trying to use gnus 5.8.8 with the option pop3-leave-mail-on-server
to leave mail on the pop server. This requires using the pop3.el from
mail-lib. However, I'm getting errors in writing the .uidls.old file
that pop3.el uses to keep track of which messages have been read.
At the suggestion of Simon Josefsson, I tried this simple experiment,
which *did* give me an error:
Simon Josefsson <jas(a)extundo.com> writes:
[...]
> Can you reproduce this with:
>
> xemacs -q -no-init-file
> C-x C-f ~/foo RET foo C-x C-s
>
> and then switch to *scratch* and evaluate:
>
> (copy-file "~/foo" "~/foo.old" t t)
>
> If so, I'd say this is a XEmacs bug, M-x report-xemacs-bug RET is your
> friend.
This gives me:
I/O error: No such file or directory, d:\HOME\foo.old
but it *does* create foo.old! Weird.
Any clues on this? I get similar errors when I try to use Franklin
Lee's epop3mail package, though this works flawlessly with gnu emacs
21.1.
Thanks,
-pd
Recent keystrokes:
o . o l d " SPC t SPC t SPC BS ) C-j C-j BS BS C-j
misc-user BS C-j BS BS ) C-x d ~ / RET C-s f o o C-n
d x y e s RET q C-j C-x d ~ / RET M-< y up misc-user
q M-x r e p o r t SPC x e SPC m a c s SPC M-BS M-BS
x e m SPC b u SPC BS BS SPC SPC r e p o SPC M-BS M-BS
r e p o SPC SPC r SPC e SPC SPC RET
Recent messages (most recent first):
Parsing d:\HOME\.mailrc...
Loading emacsbug...done
Loading emacsbug...
Making completion list...
Making completion list...
Making completion list...
Making completion list...
Reading directory d:\HOME\...done
Reading directory d:\HOME\...
Subdirectory ~\ has changed on disk. Re-list? (y or n) Yes
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