I finally figured out why I could not get 21.0 to install. It was because I built XEmacs in my personal directory and then tried to install it with all packages in that directory where XEmacs run as root did not see them. But that led to another problem, the default load path. In every version of XEmacs I have used, $prefix/lib/xemacs/site-lisp has been in the default load path. Now it is missing. Is this deliberate? R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman(a)es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634