Hrvoje Niksic writes: Correct. The behavior is still logical. What you are describing is user ignorance. Using the mark system requires that you learn a bit about it. transient-mark-mode/zmacs-region, with its Benny Stulwicz[1] interface, makes you think you understand, when you know nothing of the mark ring or how to use it. <underline>That doesn't mean Emacs should be tailored to your ignorance.</underline> Using Didier's example, an experienced user would type C-a M-<< so that the mark would be set in the correct place. Or they would M-<< C-x C-x C-u C-SPC which achieves the same result. ----- 1. Benny Stulwicz, a lovable, cheerful, retarded character on L.A. Law, a popular US television program of the 1980's.