4:54 p.m.
In my recent attempt to get dvc running with xemacs, it seems it messed
something up. I built dvc (with some modifications to support xemacs)
and tried to install it. The install went ok, but the result was the
dvc didn't really work[1]. However, now every time I start xemacs, I
get 100+ error messages stating that the auto-autoload for every package
has already been loaded.
If I start xemacs with -no-site-file and click on the Load Init Files
button, I don't get these messages.
How can If fix this?
Ray
[1] I built a newer version of dvc with some modifications. This works
better now, but I didn't install it this time. It works fine running
out of the build directory. Just want to get rid of the auto-autoloads
errors.
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5:53 p.m.
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In my recent attempt to get dvc running with xemacs, it seems it
messed
something up. I built dvc (with some modifications to support xemacs)
and tried to install it. The install went ok, but the result was the
dvc didn't really work[1]. However, now every time I start xemacs, I
get 100+ error messages stating that the auto-autoload for every package
has already been loaded.
If I start xemacs with -no-site-file and click on the Load Init Files
button, I don't get these messages.
How can If fix this?
Ray
[1] I built a newer version of dvc with some modifications. This works
better now, but I didn't install it this time. It works fine running
out of the build directory. Just want to get rid of the auto-autoloads
errors.
What is in your site file?
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On 3/7/11 12:53 PM, Jerry James wrote:
What is in your site file?
Nothing, if you mean the site-start.el file in
share/xemacs/site-lisp.
Ray
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Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
In my recent attempt to get dvc running with xemacs, it seems it
messed
something up. I built dvc (with some modifications to support xemacs)
and tried to install it. The install went ok, but the result was the
dvc didn't really work[1]. However, now every time I start xemacs, I
get 100+ error messages stating that the auto-autoload for every package
has already been loaded.
If I start xemacs with -no-site-file and click on the Load Init Files
button, I don't get these messages.
How can If fix this?
What's the output of "xemacs -debug-paths"?
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On 3/8/11 2:59 AM, Michael Sperber wrote:
Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
> If I start xemacs with -no-site-file and click on the Load Init Files
> button, I don't get these messages.
>
> How can If fix this?
What's the output of "xemacs -debug-paths"?
The output is appended below. I thought xemacs-beta put it stuff in
share not lib now, but I see that it still looks there.
Oh, and /Volumes/share is a symlink to /Volumes/share2.
Ray
$ xemacs -debug-paths
startup-setup-paths arguments:
inhibit-packages: nil
inhibit-site-lisp: nil
called-early: nil
invocation-directory: "/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/bin/"
invocation-name: "xemacs"
configure-prefix-directory: "/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/"
configure-exec-prefix-directory: nil
emacs-roots:
("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/" "/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/")
emacs-data-roots:
("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/" "/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/")
user-init-directory: "~/.xemacs/"
configure-package-path: nil
configure-lisp-directory and lisp-directory:
nil
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs-21.5-b29/lisp/"
configure-mule-lisp-directory and mule-lisp-directory:
nil
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs-21.5-b29/lisp/mule/"
configure-site-directory and site-directory:
nil
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/site-lisp/"
configure-early-package-directories, early-package-hierarchies and
early-package-load-path:
nil
("~/.xemacs/site-packages/")
("/Users/toy/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/"
"/Users/toy/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/pcl-cvs/"
"/Users/toy/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/slime/")
configure-late-package-directories, late-package-hierarchies and
late-package-load-path:
nil
("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/")
configure-last-package-directories, last-package-hierarchies and
last-package-load-path:
nil
nil
load-path:
("/Users/toy/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/"
"/Users/toy/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/pcl-cvs/"
"/Users/toy/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/slime/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/site-lisp/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/edict/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/egg-its/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/latin-euro-standards/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/latin-unity/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/leim/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/locale/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/lookup/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-ucs/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/skk/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/edict/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/egg-its/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/latin-euro-standards/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/latin-unity/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/leim/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/locale/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/lookup/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-ucs/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/skk/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/Sun/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ada/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/bbdb/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/c-support/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/calc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/calendar/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cc-mode/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cedet-common/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/clearcase/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cogre/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cookie/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/crisp/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/debug/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/dictionary/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/dired/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/docbookide/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/easypg/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ecb/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ecrypto/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ede/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edebug/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ediff/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edit-utils/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edt/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/efs/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eieio/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/elib/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/emerge/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/erc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/escreen/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eshell/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eterm/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eudc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/footnote/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/forms/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/fortran-modes/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/frame-icon/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/fsf-compat/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/games/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/general-docs/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/gnats/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/gnus/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/guided-tour/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/haskell-mode/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/hm--html-menus/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/hyperbole/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ibuffer/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/idlwave/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/igrep/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ilisp/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ispell/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/jde/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/liece/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mailcrypt/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mew/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mh-e/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mine/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/misc-games/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mmm-mode/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/net-utils/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ocaml/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/oo-browser/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/os-utils/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pcl-cvs/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pcomplete/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/perl-modes/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgg/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/prog-modes/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ps-print/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/psgml/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/psgml-dtds/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/python-modes/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/re-builder/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/reftex/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/riece/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/rmail/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ruby-modes/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sasl/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/scheme/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/semantic/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sgml/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sh-script/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sieve/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/slider/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sml-mode/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sounds-au/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sounds-wav/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/speedbar/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/strokes/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/supercite/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/texinfo/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/text-modes/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/textools/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/time/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tm/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tooltalk/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tpu/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tramp/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vc-cc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vhdl/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/view-process/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/viper/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vm/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/w3/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/x-symbol/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-devel/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xetla/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xlib/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xslide/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xslt-process/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xwem/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/zenirc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/Sun/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ada/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/bbdb/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/c-support/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/calc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/calendar/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cc-mode/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cedet-common/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/clearcase/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cogre/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cookie/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/crisp/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/debug/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/dictionary/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/dired/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/docbookide/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/easypg/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ecb/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ecrypto/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ede/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edebug/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ediff/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edit-utils/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edt/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/efs/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eieio/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/elib/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/emerge/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/erc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/escreen/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eshell/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eterm/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eudc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/footnote/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/forms/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/fortran-modes/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/frame-icon/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/fsf-compat/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/games/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/general-docs/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/gnats/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/gnus/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/guided-tour/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/haskell-mode/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/hm--html-menus/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/hyperbole/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ibuffer/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/idlwave/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/igrep/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ilisp/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ispell/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/jde/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/liece/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mailcrypt/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mew/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mh-e/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mine/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/misc-games/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mmm-mode/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/net-utils/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ocaml/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/oo-browser/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/os-utils/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pcl-cvs/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pcomplete/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/perl-modes/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgg/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/prog-modes/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ps-print/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/psgml/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/psgml-dtds/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/python-modes/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/re-builder/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/reftex/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/riece/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/rmail/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ruby-modes/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sasl/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/scheme/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/semantic/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sgml/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sh-script/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sieve/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/slider/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sml-mode/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sounds-au/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sounds-wav/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/speedbar/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/strokes/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/supercite/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/texinfo/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/text-modes/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/textools/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/time/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tm/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tooltalk/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tpu/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tramp/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vc-cc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vhdl/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/view-process/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/viper/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vm/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/w3/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/x-symbol/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-devel/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xetla/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xlib/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xslide/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xslt-process/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xwem/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/zenirc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs-21.5-b29/lisp/mule/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs-21.5-b29/lisp/")
configure-module-directory and module-directory:
nil
configure-site-module-directory and site-module-directory:
nil
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/lib/xemacs/site-modules/"
configure-info-directory, configure-info-path and Info-directory-list:
nil
nil
("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs-21.5-b29/info/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/info/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/info/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/info/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/info/"
"/usr/share/info")
configure-exec-directory and exec-directory:
nil
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/lib/xemacs-21.5-b29/i386-apple-darwin10.6.0/"
exec-path:
("/opt/local/bin/" "/opt/local/sbin/" "./"
"/Users/toy/bin/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/bin/" "/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/ccl-1.6/"
"/opt/local/bin/" "/usr/local/bin/" "/usr/bin/"
"/bin/" "/usr/sbin/"
"/sbin/" "/usr/local/bin/" "/usr/X11/bin/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lib-src/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lib-src/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/lib/xemacs-21.5-b29/i386-apple-darwin10.6.0/")
configure-doc-directory and doc-directory:
nil
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/lib/xemacs-21.5-b29/i386-apple-darwin10.6.0/"
configure-data-directory and data-directory:
nil
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs-21.5-b29/etc/"
data-directory-list:
("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/app-defaults/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/edict/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/latin-unity/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/mule/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/mule-doc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/mule-ucs/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/skk/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/start-files/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/app-defaults/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/edict/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/latin-unity/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/mule/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/mule-doc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/mule-ucs/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/skk/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/mule-packages/etc/start-files/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/auctex/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/bbdb/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/e/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/easypg/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ecb/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ediff/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/erc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ess/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ezimage/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/frame-icon/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/gnats/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/gnus/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/guided-tour/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/haskell-mode/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/hm--html-menus/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/hyperbole/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/idlwave/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ilisp/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/jde/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/liece/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/mew/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/mine/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ps-print/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/psgml/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/psgml-dtds/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/python-modes/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/reftex/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/riece/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/slider/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/smilies/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/sounds/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/time/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/vm/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/w3/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/x-symbol/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/xslt-process/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/xwem/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/zenirc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/auctex/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/bbdb/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/e/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/easypg/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ecb/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ediff/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/erc/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ess/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ezimage/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/frame-icon/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/gnats/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/gnus/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/guided-tour/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/haskell-mode/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/hm--html-menus/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/hyperbole/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/idlwave/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ilisp/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/jde/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/liece/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/mew/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/mine/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ps-print/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/psgml/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/psgml-dtds/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/python-modes/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/reftex/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/riece/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/slider/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/smilies/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/sounds/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/time/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/vm/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/w3/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/x-symbol/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/xslt-process/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/xwem/"
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/zenirc/"
"/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/share/xemacs-21.5-b29/etc/")
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Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
On 3/8/11 2:59 AM, Michael Sperber wrote:
> Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>> If I start xemacs with -no-site-file and click on the Load Init Files
>> button, I don't get these messages.
>>
>> How can If fix this?
> What's the output of "xemacs -debug-paths"?
>
The output is appended below. I thought xemacs-beta put it stuff in
share not lib now, but I see that it still looks there.
Oh, and /Volumes/share is a symlink to /Volumes/share2.
This is the source of the problem:
emacs-data-roots:
("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/" "/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/")
How did you configure XEmacs?
Also, what does
(paths-find-invocation-roots invocation-directory invocation-name
#'paths-emacs-data-root-p)
return?
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On 3/8/11 9:09 AM, Michael Sperber wrote:
Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
> On 3/8/11 2:59 AM, Michael Sperber wrote:
>> Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>> If I start xemacs with -no-site-file and click on the Load Init Files
>>> button, I don't get these messages.
>>>
>>> How can If fix this?
>> What's the output of "xemacs -debug-paths"?
>>
> The output is appended below. I thought xemacs-beta put it stuff in
> share not lib now, but I see that it still looks there.
>
> Oh, and /Volumes/share is a symlink to /Volumes/share2.
This is the source of the problem:
> emacs-data-roots:
> ("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/" "/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/")
Hmm. I wonder how that happened? Perhaps I messed things up. I was
working with dvc at the same time as I was trying to get the latest
xemacs-beta version from hg to run.
How did you configure XEmacs?
../configure
'--prefix=/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6'
'--with-xft=emacs,menubars' '--with-mule'
'CFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include'
'LDFLAGS=-L/opt/local/lib'
Also, what does
(paths-find-invocation-roots invocation-directory invocation-name
#'paths-emacs-data-root-p)
return?
("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/")
Ah, and that's the hint. I have PATH set to look at
/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/bin. I should probably change that to
/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/bin instead because
/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/bin/xemacs doesn't produce all the errors
about loading auto-autoloads. Or rebuild xemacs with a prefix of
/Volumes/share/darwin10.6.
Thanks for your help!
Ray
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Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
Ah, and that's the hint. I have PATH set to look at
/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/bin. I should probably change that to
/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/bin instead because
/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/bin/xemacs doesn't produce all the errors
about loading auto-autoloads. Or rebuild xemacs with a prefix of
/Volumes/share/darwin10.6.
Exactly.
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>>>> "Michael" == Michael Sperber
<sperber(a)deinprogramm.de> writes:
Michael> Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
> On 3/8/11 2:59 AM, Michael Sperber wrote:
>> Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>> If I start xemacs with -no-site-file and click on the Load
>>> Init Files button, I don't get these messages.
>>>
>>> How can If fix this?
>> What's the output of "xemacs -debug-paths"?
>>
> The output is appended below. I thought xemacs-beta put it
> stuff in share not lib now, but I see that it still looks
> there.
>
> Oh, and /Volumes/share is a symlink to /Volumes/share2.
Michael> This is the source of the problem:
> emacs-data-roots: ("/Volumes/share/darwin10.6/"
> "/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/")
Should emacs-data-roots be a list of length one?
I just rebuilt xemacs for my solaris box and happened to install it to
/share/lorien2/solaris2.10. No problem with the build, but I have the
same problem with the resulting installed binary. This is because
emacs-data-roots is ("/share/lorien2/solaris2.10/"
"/share/lorien2/").
The issue here is that /share/lorien2 also share/xemacs directory for
a Linux build.
So basically, does that mean I have two options? Either I have to
install xemacs in some other place so that xemacs can't find other
share directories or I need to restructure /share/lorien2 to put the
Linux stuff somewhere else?
Ray
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Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
Should emacs-data-roots be a list of length one?
On some installations, yes, on some, no. :-(
I just rebuilt xemacs for my solaris box and happened to install it
to
/share/lorien2/solaris2.10. No problem with the build, but I have the
same problem with the resulting installed binary. This is because
emacs-data-roots is ("/share/lorien2/solaris2.10/"
"/share/lorien2/").
The issue here is that /share/lorien2 also share/xemacs directory for
a Linux build.
So basically, does that mean I have two options? Either I have to
install xemacs in some other place so that xemacs can't find other
share directories or I need to restructure /share/lorien2 to put the
Linux stuff somewhere else?
I guess we should really try to remove aliases from the list. Could you
try replacing the equality tests in `paths-find-emacs-roots' by
something like this:
(defun file-name-true-name-equalp (f1 f2)
(equal (file-truename f1)
(file-truename f2)))
and see if that helps?
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>>>> "Michael" == Michael Sperber
<sperber(a)deinprogramm.de> writes:
Michael> Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
Michael> I guess we should really try to remove aliases from the
Michael> list. Could you try replacing the equality tests in
Michael> `paths-find-emacs-roots' by something like this:
Michael> (defun file-name-true-name-equalp (f1 f2)
Michael> (equal (file-truename f1)
Michael> (file-truename f2)))
Michael> and see if that helps?
I didn't try that out, but for the original issue where
"/Volumes/share2/darwin10.6/" and "/Volumes/share/darwin10.6",
file-name-true-equalp returns true because /Volumes/share is a symlink
to /Volumes/share2.
For the current case of /share/lorien2/solaris2.10 and
/share/lorien2/, this doesn't work because they are physically
different locations, and both contain share/xemacs/xemacs-packages. A
quick test shows that there are no problems if I remove
/share/lorien2/solaris2.10/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages.
So maybe a warning should be issued if each path in emacs-roots
contains a share/xemacs/xemacs-packages subdirectory? That would have
made it much easier for a user to understand what's going on. It
certainly would have helped me figure it out, but I don't know if this
idea is actually valid for the general case.
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Raymond Toy writes:
So maybe a warning should be issued if each path in emacs-roots
contains a share/xemacs/xemacs-packages subdirectory?
Wel, its seems perfectly reasonable to me to have "standard" packages
in /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages and local or third-party packages
in /usr/local/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages.
That would have made it much easier for a user to understand
what's
going on.
If XEmacs is behaving strangely, it's always a good idea to check for
shadows: M-x list-load-path-shadows. I think should make it pretty
clear, too, although it's a relatively expensive check.
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>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
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Stephen> Raymond Toy writes:
> So maybe a warning should be issued if each path in emacs-roots
> contains a share/xemacs/xemacs-packages subdirectory?
Stephen> Wel, its seems perfectly reasonable to me to have
Stephen> "standard" packages in /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages
Stephen> and local or third-party packages in
Stephen> /usr/local/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages.
Yeah, I guess that's possible.
> That would have made it much easier for a user to understand
> what's going on.
Stephen> If XEmacs is behaving strangely, it's always a good idea
Stephen> to check for shadows: M-x list-load-path-shadows. I
Stephen> think should make it pretty clear, too, although it's a
Stephen> relatively expensive check.
In hindsight, list-load-path-shadows is obvious. Yet, I don't
remember anyone suggesting that. :-) And even if
list-load-path-shadows listed the shadowed packages, it still would
have been hard to figure out how the duplicated packages got there,
since it happens long before my init.el is loaded.
But now that I know, I won't be making that mistake again. (I hope!)
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Raymond Toy writes:
In hindsight, list-load-path-shadows is obvious. Yet, I don't
remember anyone suggesting that. :-)
It's "obvious", why should it need be suggested? Jokes aside, I'll
see what I can do about documentation when I get back from travel.
And even if list-load-path-shadows listed the shadowed packages, it
still would have been hard to figure out how the duplicated
packages got there, since it happens long before my init.el is
loaded.
Sure, but that's the price of using free software. Anybody, perhaps
even *you* (oh, heavens, no!) could have put it there.
Jokes aside, if you have a suggestion about how to avoid this (besides
running list-load-path-shadows on every startup which I'll think about
but my first take is "obviously too expensive") I'd like to hear is.
Remember, at best we have a guess about stuff under $prefix, but
AFAICT you don't have dupes under $prefix, and we somehow were unable
(despite trying) to determine that $overthere == $prefix, which we can
try to do better, but cannot promise to succeed.
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>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Stephen> Raymond Toy writes:
> In hindsight, list-load-path-shadows is obvious. Yet, I
don't
> remember anyone suggesting that. :-)
Stephen> It's "obvious", why should it need be suggested? Jokes
Stephen> aside, I'll see what I can do about documentation when I
Stephen> get back from travel.
Well, it could also be that this has happened before, but everyone
else was smart enough to use list-load-path-shadows to figure it out,
and I was just too stupid.
Stephen> Jokes aside, if you have a suggestion about how to avoid
Stephen> this (besides running list-load-path-shadows on every
Stephen> startup which I'll think about but my first take is
Stephen> "obviously too expensive") I'd like to hear is.
Stephen> Remember, at best we have a guess about stuff under
Stephen> $prefix, but AFAICT you don't have dupes under $prefix,
Stephen> and we somehow were unable (despite trying) to determine
Stephen> that $overthere == $prefix, which we can try to do
Stephen> better, but cannot promise to succeed.
In the original case where one was a symlink to the other, xemacs
should have been able to deduce that by chasing the symlink.
In the other case, xemacs by design was looking at both directories so
I guess there's not much that can be done with that other than making
xemacs stop looking there. But that would probably break
installations that use bindir to store the exec in special
subdirectories. (I used to do this with multiple xemacs versions and
sometimes even different archs.)
I think this is a sufficiently rare occurrence that nothing (other
than, perhaps, the symlink chasing above) really needs to be done.
Maybe filing a bug with some steps to figure out what's going would be
enough?
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Raymond Toy writes:
In the original case where one was a symlink to the other, xemacs
should have been able to deduce that by chasing the symlink.
I get the impression Mike's working on that, that's why he asked for
the truename test.
I'll try to get to reviewing the thread and improving docs tomorrow.
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>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Stephen> Raymond Toy writes:
> In the original case where one was a symlink to the other,
> xemacs should have been able to deduce that by chasing the
> symlink.
Stephen> I get the impression Mike's working on that, that's why
Stephen> he asked for the truename test.
Stephen> I'll try to get to reviewing the thread and improving
Stephen> docs tomorrow.
Thanks for your help. If you need a volunteer to look over the doc
changes, ask me.
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Raymond Toy writes:
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Stephen> I'll try to get to reviewing the thread and
improving
Stephen> docs tomorrow.
Thanks for your help. If you need a volunteer to look over the doc
changes, ask me.
I've committed a patch to the FAQ's Troubleshooting section, I suppose
that's the most discoverable place for it. Patch is viewable here:
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/pipermail/xemacs-patches/2011-April/010543...
I've also created an issue and assigned it to Mike because I think
he's working on detecting dupes via symlink. (Feel free to close it
if you don't think that will work, or unassign yourself if you're not
working on it, Mike.)
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>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Stephen> Raymond Toy writes:
> >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org>
> >>>>> writes:
Stephen> I'll try to get to reviewing the thread and improving
Stephen> docs tomorrow.
>
> Thanks for your help. If you need a volunteer to look over the
> doc changes, ask me.
Stephen> I've committed a patch to the FAQ's Troubleshooting
Stephen> section, I suppose that's the most discoverable place for
Stephen> it. Patch is viewable here:
Stephen>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/pipermail/xemacs-patches/2011-April/010543...
This looks good to me.
Ray
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Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
Stephen> I've committed a patch to the FAQ's
Troubleshooting
Stephen> section, I suppose that's the most discoverable place for
Stephen> it. Patch is viewable here:
Stephen>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/pipermail/xemacs-patches/2011-April/010543...
This looks good to me.
Did you ever try the fix snippet I suggested?
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>>>> "Michael" == Michael Sperber
<sperber(a)deinprogramm.de> writes:
Michael> Raymond Toy <toy.raymond(a)gmail.com> writes:
Stephen> I've committed a patch to the FAQ's Troubleshooting
Stephen> section, I suppose that's the most discoverable place for
Stephen> it. Patch is viewable here:
Stephen>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/pipermail/xemacs-patches/2011-April/010543...
>
> This looks good to me.
Michael> Did you ever try the fix snippet I suggested?
Hmm. I don't remember anymore. I may not have, but I did at least
test that (truename p1) and (truename p2) returned the same thing when
p1 was a symlink to p2.
If you would like a real test, I can do that; it's not hard and
doesn't take too long.
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Raymond Toy writes:
The output is appended below. I thought xemacs-beta put it stuff in
share not lib now, but I see that it still looks there.
Not for Lisp, though. According to the output you provide, Lisp is
only searched for in share. Conforming to the FHS, lib is where you
put architecture-specific binaries, such as DLLs, and executables only
invoked by other programs.
Mike is the expert, but I don't see anything in your --debug-paths
output that would cause the symptom you're seeing.
By the way, you said your site startup file is empty, but how about
default.el? (I expect that will be empty too, but gotta cover all the
bases here....)
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On 3/8/11 11:03 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Raymond Toy writes:
> The output is appended below. I thought xemacs-beta put it stuff in
> share not lib now, but I see that it still looks there.
Not for Lisp, though. According to the output you provide, Lisp is
only searched for in share. Conforming to the FHS, lib is where you
put architecture-specific binaries, such as DLLs, and executables only
invoked by other programs.
I guess I was confused about where things go, because they used to go in
different places long ago (I think), and since I don't build xemacs very
often, I wasn't paying attention.
Mike is the expert, but I don't see anything in your --debug-paths
output that would cause the symptom you're seeing.
It's fixed now. Or will be once I change my PATH to the correct value.
By the way, you said your site startup file is empty, but how about
default.el? (I expect that will be empty too, but gotta cover all the
bases here....)
It turns out that share/xemacs/site-lisp is completely empty. No files.
Is there supposed to be a default.el there or somewhere else?
Ray
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Executive Summary for Busy Bosses:
Raymond Toy writes:
I guess I was confused about where things go, because they used to go
in
different places long ago (I think), and since I don't build xemacs very
often, I wasn't paying attention.
That's as it should be! ;-)
It turns out that share/xemacs/site-lisp is completely empty. No
files.
Is there supposed to be a default.el there or somewhere else?
Not really in modern usage.
Optional Reading for Those Fascinated by Archaeology:
In fact, since the Lucid Emacs days, the "normal" layout of systems
has changed substantially, and XEmacs has been dragged, kicking and
screaming:-) into the modern age of FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy
Standard) etc conformance.
This was somewhat painful as there are various requirements, including
backward compatibility where possible, besides standard conformance.
Mike, for example, worked for several years to turn the "normal"
XEmacs installation into a 100% relative-location system (requires
--without-prefix configure option), such that you could tar up the
whole installed XEmacs tree, unpack it anywhere (at least on a POSIX
system), point PATH at the XEmacs binary, and everything would work.
(Assuming of course that the XEmacs binary was compatible with the CPU
on the host where it's unpacked. :-) Other people wanted a system
that could host binaries for several versions and architectures to be
shared by automounting appropriate shares over NFS, and share Lisp
globally. Others wanted an /opt-style layout, where all XEmacs stuff
would live in /opt/XEmacs-$VERSION-$ARCH or similar. With appropriate
configuration, all of these, plus run-in-place with in-core-source-tree
packages or installed packages, are now possible. Actually, as of
21.4, but Mike has been improving the system, as well as moving Lisp
and Info to $prefix/share, in 21.5.
The idea behind multiple startup files was as follows:
site-start: Fixes that are site-specific and XEmacs may not run
correctly without them (eg, handling of automounts and
top-level symlinks for search paths, such as the problem
that bit you -- Mike has this mostly automated)
default: Site customizations, such as a splash screen or local
site-wide help facilities or Lisp library collections.
init: Personal customizations.
But few people share Emacs binaries that way anymore, and improvements
in both XEmacs and distros have made site-start almost obsolete. In
modern workstation-per-person practice, everything goes into the init
file.
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