>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com&gt; writes: Ben> Jan, prior to the introduction of packages, there was no need to `make Ben> install' to get things to work. I want it to be possible to download a Ben> single tarball and simply do "configure; make" and have things work when you Ben> run the executable. This has nothing to do with separate packages for Ben> separate versions, and everything to do with "it should just work". Maybe I'm beginning to see what you're suggesting here: You want a package tree alongside the *source tree* for an *in-place* XEmacs. Right? I have no objection to that, as long as we don't use this setup for the installed XEmacs. I'll even implement this. And please, guys, once again, I'M BEGGING YOU ... SUBJECT HEADERS? -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla