Uwe Brauer <oub(a)ucmail.ucm.es&gt; wrote: Can you please attach text as MIME type text/plain instead of application/octet-stream? That way I don't have to save it to a file just to look at it. Thanks! 1) What is the value of mail-user-agent in your XEmacs? 2) What is the value of (get mail-user-agent 'composefunc) in your XEmacs? -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/

Vin Shelton <acs(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: *sniff* I don't have menus :-( and it seems I'm unable to find the right key sequence to issue this command. K C doesn't show the part. norbert.

Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es&gt; writes: Okay, thanks. In this case it must be an OSI Layer 8 error on my side. norbert.

Vin Shelton <acs(a)xemacs.org&gt;, pointing out that I'm an idiot, wrote: Yes. Thanks for pointing that out! -- Jerry "D'oh!" James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/

Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es&gt; wrote: Oh really? I didn't know that. Well then, you can't win. If you attach as text/plain the Netscape users will complain, and if you attach as application/octet-stream the Gnus users will complain. Welcome to hell.:-) I just need this part of the backtrace: [snip] Weird. On my system, at least, compose-mail is defined in simple.el as follows (minus the docstring): (defun compose-mail (&optional to subject other-headers continue switch-function yank-action send-actions) (interactive (list nil nil nil current-prefix-arg)) (let ((function (get mail-user-agent 'composefunc))) (funcall function to subject other-headers continue switch-function yank-action send-actions))) which means that (get mail-user-agent 'composefunc) should have returned nil for you. Since you got vm-compose-mail instead, I don't know what to think. Does C-h f compose-mail indicate that it comes from simple.el? Can you step through that function in the debugger and see if anything obvious jumps out at you? -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/

Uwe> BTW you do you guys get rid of nested citations, inserting this Uwe> [snip]? I can figure out how to do this one in gnus. How about sc-nested-citation-p -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

Jerry> From the backtrace above, this appears to mean that Jerry> `function' is nil, which means that (get mail-user-agent Jerry> 'composefunc) should have returned nil for you. Since you Jerry> got vm-compose-mail instead, I don't know what to think. Jerry> Does C-h f compose-mail indicate that it comes from Jerry> simple.el? Can you step through that function in the Jerry> debugger and see if anything obvious jumps out at you? This _could_ be either packaging issues (sorry, Norbert, but this is the kind of thing that could happen if we're missing a depend or something) or more byte compiler/interpreter lossage. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

viteno> make autoloads && cd xemacs-packages/net-utils && make viteno> gets through, so everything seems to be visible at viteno> build-time. I wouldn't bet on that in the long run, but for now, I think we need to identify the bug rather than just re-release packages. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.