Thanks for your help Itay! Terry -----Original Message----- From: Itay Ben-Yaacov [SMTP:pezz＠www-mail.huji.ac.il] well, being a "newbie" myself, i'll try to help: all those empty directories should be very full, so something is wrong. if i am not mistaken, "make install" under cygnus would fail till andy's install script a few betas back, since it would try to install executables without the .exe extension. since it looks like you're trying b30, maybe upgrading a little could help. you are 8 betas in the past :) as for the location of the packages: maybe there is an 'official' method, but after not too many try-and-fails i found that installing under PREFIX/lib/xemacs-21.0-b??/packages (which does not exist) works just fine. hope i've been of some help :) -- Itay Ben-Yaacov