if you have a hook that takes arguments or otherwise departs from being a "normal hook", FSF says you should call it -functions, not -hook. unfortunately, many existing FSF hooks don't follow this [e.g. they use -hooks instead]. furthermore, xemacs convention in this regard is just -hook. if i'm creating new such hooks, what do people think i should use? -- Ben In order to save my hands, I am cutting back on my mail. I also write as succinctly as possible -- please don't be offended. If you send me mail, you _will_ get a response, but please be patient, especially for XEmacs-related mail. If you need an immediate response and it is not apparent in your message, please say so. Thanks for your understanding. See also http://www.666.com/ben/chronic-pain/