7:55 p.m.
Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
>>>>> "Aidan" == Aidan Kehoe
<kehoea(a)parhasard.net> writes:
> Œ is not in ISO 8859-9 (nor is œ). It is in ISO 8859-15, but
> unless you’re using recent 21.5, you’ll need to make sure that
> the character being input gives the following output in the
> scratch buffer:
That works, but the 15 coding gives me
½
Sigh. latin-9 (aka iso-8859-15 for whatever reason) has œ at code point
0xbd, and that is how you save the file. XEmacs is completely correct
here.
Then you read the file in, interpreting it as latin-1 (since XEmacs has
no way to guess that this file is supposed to be latin-9). And latin-1
has ½ at that code point.
If you, for example, place
\usepackage[inputenc]{latin9}
at the top of a LaTeX file, TeX will know to interpret this character as
œ in spite of your editor showing it as ½ unless told about the right
encoding (newer versions of Emacs steal the encoding info from the above
LaTeX line, but that is probably not fair).
> for it to be saved correctly using the iso-8859-15 coding
> system. Other encodings (other Mule character sets) won’t work,
> again, unless you’re using recent XEmacs 21.5. It may be that
> latin-unity will work too, even on 21.4.
Ok, but how do I use latin-unity? Well it seems that
latin-unity-install did the thing the coding was then saved
correctly. But alas it is saved as UTF-8!
So how can I save it as iso-8859-15?
You already did, successfully so. Your question should rather be how to
tell XEmacs to _read_ it as iso-8859-15.
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New subject: how to save œ other than utf8
>
>
> So how can I save it as iso-8859-15?
You already did, successfully so. Your question should rather be how
to
tell XEmacs to _read_ it as iso-8859-15.
And I have to add:
the question is, alas, how also to tell GNU emacs 23 to
read it as iso-8859-15, because even with the solution of putting
% Local Variables:
% buffer-file-coding-system: iso-8859-15
% End:
Emacs 23 opens the file and shows ½!
I think there is a problem in both macsen!
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New subject: how to save œ other than utf8
Uwe Brauer writes:
>> So how can I save it as iso-8859-15?
> You already did, successfully so. Your question should rather be how to
> tell XEmacs to _read_ it as iso-8859-15.
And I have to add: the question is, alas, how also to tell GNU
emacs 23 to read it as iso-8859-15, because even with the solution
of putting
% Local Variables:
% buffer-file-coding-system: iso-8859-15
% End:
That won't work, I think, because the file has already been read and
coding autodetected. So this will change the coding system for
*saving* but not for the already read buffer. Using the `coding'
pseudo-variable should work, though.
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New subject: how to save œ other than utf8
>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
>
> % Local Variables:
> % buffer-file-coding-system: iso-8859-15
> % End:
That won't work, I think, because the file has already been read
and coding autodetected. So this will change the coding system for
*saving* but not for the already read buffer. Using the `coding'
pseudo-variable should work, though.
Sorry for my ignorance, but which variable do you mean?
Uwe
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New subject: how to save œ other than utf8
Uwe Brauer writes:
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
> *saving* but not for the already read buffer. Using the
`coding'
> pseudo-variable should work, though.
Sorry for my ignorance, but which variable do you mean?
The one named "coding": eg, -*- coding: iso-8859-15 -*-.
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>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
> Uwe Brauer writes:
>> >>>> "Stephen" ==
Stephen J Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
> > *saving* but not for the already read buffer. Using the
`coding'
> > pseudo-variable should work, though.
>
> Sorry for my ignorance, but which variable do you mean?
The one named "coding": eg, -*- coding: iso-8859-15 -*-.
I am still not sure I understand I tried
--8<------------------------schnipp------------------------->8---
½
œ
# Local Variables:
# buffer-file-coding-system: iso-8859-15
# coding: iso-8859-15
# End:
--8<------------------------schnapp------------------------->8---
But it does not work.
Uwe
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New subject: how to save œ other than utf8
>>>> "Uwe" == Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es>
writes:
>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
> Uwe Brauer writes:
>> >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
>> > *saving* but not for the already read buffer. Using the
`coding'
>> > pseudo-variable should work, though.
>>
>> Sorry for my ignorance, but which variable do you mean?
> The one named "coding": eg, -*- coding: iso-8859-15
-*-.
Forget please this mail, I figures out how to do it. :)
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