Andy> [1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>] This patch fixes the Andy> problems with frame sizing: toolbar file open bug is fixed. Andy> new frames after default not desired size fixed Andy> I have also taken the liberty of changing the default size Andy> to 80x35. You can switch this off if you wish and the usual Andy> plists override as you would expect. Hello Andy, applying the patch and building went fine. XEmacs comes up 80x35. However, neither default-frame-plist - Plist of default values for frame creation, other than the first one. nor initial-frame-plist - Plist of frame properties for creating the initial X window frame. makes XEmacs come up the specified size. Only typing at it (I typically start with C-x C-b) will make it re-size and re-position as specified. Is this problem (which I've seen with Native Windows NT - XEmacs ever since) supposed to be fixed by your patch? No matter what, XEmacs is definitely THE KILLER APP on my Windows NT Workstation! Best regards, Adrian Andy> andy -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com