Mon, 11 May 2009 (17:39 +0200 UTC) Uwe Brauer wrote: I think the answer may depend on the type of Apple laptop (MacBook, IBook, PowerBook) and the OS version (e.g. 10.4 or 10.5). The OS version affects (probably) whether you are running XFree X11.app or X.org X11.app. The x11-user list http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-users is your friend. I think that the laptops have keyboard input quirks WRT the special keys--quirks such as whether they can even be seen at the X11 level. The Fn key (for example) I believe is invisible to X in 10.4 and lower, and the distinction between left and righ keys is also not present for the special keys. On both 10.4 and 10.5 you will have to keep track of the settings for mouse tracking equivalents because those are likely eating the input of the Command and Apple keys. All that said, for my non-notebook iMac 10.5.6 system running the latest X.org server and xquartz, XQuartz 2.3.3_rc5 (xorg-server 1.5.3-apple6), I have the following in my .Xmodmap (which works): clear Shift clear Lock clear Control clear Mod1 clear Mod2 clear Mod3 clear Mod4 clear Mod5 add Shift = Shift_L Shift_R add Lock = Caps_Lock add Control = Control_L add Mod1 = Alt_L add Mod2 = Meta_L add Mod3 = Mode_switch add Mod4 = Super_R add Mod5 = Hyper_R keysym 65506 = Shift_R keysym 65505 = Shift_L Note, there exists a race condition on startup with the beta X server I use which means that on some machines (my iMac G5 being one) the ~/.Xmodmap will not install at startup. I have to remember to run xmodmap by hand after start. The non-beta Apple X server does not have that problem. rdr -- Dr. Robert Delius Royar Associate Professor of English Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

Mon, 18 May 2009 (15:26 +0200 UTC) Uwe Brauer wrote: The Air keyboard may have a right-hand Enter rather than an extra Alt/Option key. My PowerBook keyboard is like that. On the iMac, the Super_R is right-hand Alt/Option and Hyper_R is right-hand control. In my haste I forgot the following commands that are also in my ~/.Xmodmap keycode 69 = Super_R keycode 70 = Hyper_R keycode 71 = Mode_switch I found the keycodes with xev. My PowerBook could not assign different values to Left/Right versions of keys. I have 10.4 on it. I do not know whether that was ahardware or OS restriction. -- Dr. Robert Delius Royar Associate Professor of English Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky Making meaning one message at a time. Here is a chair. Can you see it clearly?--Good--now translate it into French! -Ludwig Wittgenstein 13:23 up 5 days, 2:35, 1 user, load averages: 0.99 1.01 1.07 _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

thanks very much for this information. Uwe _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta