Andy> You evidently don't have the hacked msg select(). I would be Andy> interested to know if you can make this work. Try putting Andy> #include <winsock.h> Andy> at the top of the file. Andy> Hmm, cygwin docs say that winsock.h can't be used with select. Andy> Hmm, try Andy> typedef unsigned int SOCKET; Andy> instead. Andy, I simply love you!!! No more substitutes such as ntemacs!!! XEmacs rulez!!! XEmacs-nt guys, you are great--thank you. Plain cygwin32, plain (well, almost) cvs checkout, no additional libraries, and I finally have XEmacs on M$. Current problem: making efs work. Which ftp.exe do you use? When I try to open any remote location, I just get a black window with a `ftp' caption, and nothing ever happens there. Remek