After upgrading recently to 21.5-b28 I notice that whenever I visit a remote file using tramp (v 2.0.55 - part of the xemacs sumo package tarball) the buffer's modified flag is set. I have the following tramp bits in my .xemacs/init.el file: (require 'tramp) (setq auto-save-directory (expand-file-name "~/tmp/emacs.save")) (setq tramp-auto-save-directory auto-save-directory) (setq tramp-remote-path (append tramp-remote-path (list "/opt/app/bin"))) (setq tramp-default-method "rsync") (defun ediff-file-remote-p (file-name) (car (cond ((featurep 'efs-auto) (efs-ftp-path file-name)) ((featurep 'tramp) (cons (tramp-tramp-file-p file-name) nil)) ((fboundp 'file-remote-p) (file-remote-p file-name))))) (defun compile-or-tramp-compile () (interactive) (require 'compile) (if (tramp-tramp-file-p (or (buffer-file-name) default-directory)) (call-interactively 'tramp-compile) (call-interactively 'compile))) (define-key ctl-x-map [(control k)] 'compile-or-tramp-compile) My rudimentary spidey sense tells me none of these ELisp snippets should affect whether or not the remote file buffer is marked as modified. I realize that the tramp which comes with the sumo package tarball is a bit behind the curve. I tried updating the package index to the pre-release stuff from mirrors.ibiblio.org but got a GnuPG error. Here's some view-lossage output: Process error: GnuPG error. Package database not updated BAD SIGNATURE claiming to be from 'nil' Verifying... Loading mc-gpg...done Loading mc-gpg... Loading mc-toplev...done Loading mc-toplev... PGP version set to GPG. ... I've no idea how to work around that problem. Long story short, I can't easily try a more recent version of tramp with XEmacs. -- Skip Montanaro - skip(a)pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Darwin montanaro.dyndns.org 8.10.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0: Wed May 23 16:50:59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc ./configure '--prefix=/Users/skip/local' '--with-optimization' '--without-error-checking' 'LDFLAGS=-L/opt/local/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include' XEmacs 21.5-b28 "fuki" configured for `powerpc-apple-darwin8.10.0'. Compilation Environment and Installation Defaults: Source code location: /Users/skip/src/xemacs-21.5.28 Installation prefix: /Users/skip/local Operating system description file: `s/darwin.h' Machine description file: `m/powerpc.h' Compiler version: powerpc-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5367) - GCC specs file: specs. - Compiler command: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Wundef -Wsign-compare -Wno-char-subscripts -Wpacked -Wpointer-arith -Wunused-parameter -g -O3 libc version: Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: no - The GNU allocators don't work with this system configuration. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for DBM. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "file" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new GC mark algorithms (KKCC). WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: The new algorithms are experimental. They are enabled by WARNING: default for this release. Use `--disable-kkcc' to WARNING: turn it off. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Using the new portable dumper. Dumping into executable. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. 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