Charles> Adrian Aichner writes: Charles> Yes, this key can be found on Sun keyboards (at least it Charles> could 5 years ago when I last worked on a Sun...) Oh boy, I worked on Suns for a decade. Scarey how one forgets. I can even remember the Find Cut, and, Paste keys on the left keypad now -- or am I dreaming already? Charles> Please. The PCL-CVS key bindings really need some work. Charles> You used to (IIRC) be able to hit "Enter" on a file line Charles> and open the file (a la dired), now you have to click or Charles> press 'f'. Here's my growing pcl-cvs key-binding grip list: RET runs the command newline (should cvs-mode-find-file) M-f runs the command cvs-mode-force-command (should be forward-word, bad boy!) I'd like to move cvs-mode-force-command to !, how about that? What should be done about the advertized undo key in the CVS menu, advertise all bindings perhaps (that would be non-standard I guess)? I guess (where-is-internal 'undo) ([undo] [(control /)] [(control _)]) could be used to find out. Any more gripes? -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

Stefan> That's a bug in pcl-cvs-defs.el (someone recently pointed Stefan> it out to me). ah, ok. cvs-mode-find-file might need to become a bit smarter to handle the case where RET is hit on a line with no file. Currently I get: `nil' is not applicable to any of the selected files. I don't mind it too much, but it doesn't really help a casual user who has never applied nil to a selected file :-) Stefan> I don't find horizontal cursor movement of any use in Stefan> *cvs* buffers. principal of least surprise. Even though I have a touchpad and wheely-mouse I use the keyboard a lot. I expect M-b and M-f to do the same conceptual thing in all modes and they do. It took me a while to notice that M-f subtly changed cvs behavior. Stefan> Sounds like a good idea, although it goes against the Stefan> dired bindings. Right now PCL-CVS does not follow dired, Guess what M-f does in dired :-) M-f runs the command forward-word Stefan> so maybe it doesn't matter, but I've heard people request Stefan> more dired-compatibility. ! runs the command dired-do-shell-command Do you already have a cvs-do-...-command in mind for pcl-cvs? If not, why not use ! for cvs-mode-force-command. It has pretty good mmemonic value (force!) Stefan> Stefan What do you think about the undo keybinding shown in the CVS menu? Later, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

For me it's `U' so I don't see any problem with it ;-) Stefan

Adrian.Aichner(a)t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: Hitting RET on a (sub)directory could eventually expand/colapse the directory. That could be a nice feature. :-) Jarl

Raymond Toy wrote: : : And it seems to me that I used to be able to use '=' on all marked : files and it would produce a diff of all the marked files. Now it : just produces a diff on the file the cursor is on. The old behavior : was pretty handy when you wanted to create a selected patch set to : send to someone. 1. M-x customize-group [RET] pcl-cvs [RET] 2. Uncollapse `Invert Ignore Marks' 3. Uncheck `diff' 4. State -> Save for Future Sessions It's all. -- Andrew W. Nosenko (awn(a)bcs.zp.ua)