sb> 21.1.3 will be released when it is ready. "We will release no sb> XEmacs before its time." Very fine with me. Not so fine, though, is the still existing Beta-logo when building 21.1.2 on NT. AFAIR this is only an omission (that's what Jan said, FWIW). We are beta a bit too long, aren't we ? Note that I don't want to pressure anybody. Or more exactly I do, since NT users will be "a little bit" confused by the Beta logo, IMHO. Holger -- --- http://www.coling.uni-freiburg.de/~schauer/ --- "Perl was the first language to integrate the Unix environment into itself." -- Per Abrahamsen in comp.emacs.xemacs