SY> Couldn't do it because you'd have to have 2 copies of each SY> package - a new style version and an old style version. All SY> XEmacsen prior to the one that has support for the new file SY> format wouldn't be able to cope. Right. Uwe's setup would break too many existing systems completely. What could be done (with a lot of manual work by the users at first, but the package system should be packagized anyway, it cannot be required for bootstrapping XEmacs) is what dpkg and rpm do: use a different separator character (probably ?_) to add a version number to the package. Then new upstream versions will show up as new packages in PUI. A PITA for people using the "old" package system, but I really don't see why packagizing the PUI tools can't be done (since we need to put bootstrap packages into the main tarballs anyway, PUI may as well be one of them). We really need to do this eventually anyway. I don't think it's pressing (although Uwe has every right to disagree), but it should be on the agenda. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.