sb> ... sb> sb> Yes! I'm hoping to get updated cvs.el into the Lisp packages under sb> the wire. Frédéric is still working on it, so it is definitely a live sb> package. It would be nice if cvs.el and pcl-cvs.el did not both define the functions cvs-mode and cvs-status, and the variable cvs-shell. Amazingly these seem to be the only clashes, though there are many symbols that are very close, as both use the cvs- prefix. This should allow both to coexist nicely, though I have not investigated fully. Last I looked, it seemed that cvs.el's cvs-mode would be more appropriately named cvs-minor-mode. Cvs-shell is not a problem. I'm not sure what to do about cvs-status. btw- I really do plan to synch us w/ pcl-cvs 2.0 one of these days... greg