Holger> [packages should be installed by sysadmins] sb> Users have always been encouraged to install their own lisp. Holger> That is something that gives any sysadmin the headaches. I have been Holger> bitten much to often by having old packages lying around, breaking new Holger> clean installs (mailcrypt, VM and bbdb, anybody ?). Holger> What you say is certainly true for private additions and Holger> configurations - but it is a very different story, if all users keep Holger> their own "newest version of package xy, since that bloddy sysad never Holger> installs it" - and the sysadmin in fact is only one day late or has Holger> good reason not to install a package. When a user gets a package, does the package get installed in the XEmacs package directory or does it go into the users local area? (I've never used package-get because I've never gotten around to fixing efs to understand our ftp system here to get through our firewall.) If the package goes into XEmacs package directory, that could be really bad if random people update packages whenever they feel like it and unknowningly hose others who depended on some behavior of the original version. Ray