sb> Didier Verna <verna(a)inf.enst.fr&gt; writes: sb> I didn't mention, but should, that Motif is also being excluded. See http://www.sun.com/solaris/cde/earlier-version/cde-wpaper6.html And it was at that precise moment that he remembered an ancient Eskimo legend wherein it is written...[1] Acknowledgments CDE is a direct result of contributions from many people at Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell, and SunSoft. The cooperative efforts of people from OSF, X/Open, and the X Consortium have contributed greatly to the result. And many other companies have made contributions through their involvement in, and adoption of, and ongoing commitment to CDE. References [AK94] Adrian King, Inside Windows 95, Microsoft Press, 1994, ISBN 1-55615-626-X. [CDE95] Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell, and SunSoft CDE Joint Development Teams, CDE: Programmer's Overview, CDE: Programming Guide, CDE: Help System Author's and Programmer's Guide, CDE: Internationalization Programmer's Guide, CDE: Application Builder User's Guide, CDE: Style Guide and Certification Checklist, CDE: ToolTalk Messaging Overview, CDE: Dialog and Scripting Services, CDE: User's Guide, CDE: Advanced User's and System Administrator's Guide, CDE 1.0 sample implementation, 1995. sb> "Abomination", I agree with. It doesn't appear to cause any problems sb> with Solaris. How about HP/UX (10.20 to be specific)? Footnotes: [1] Got the reference, anyone? -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com