In XEmacs 21.2 (beta45) "Thelxepeia (GTK Inside)" [Lucid] (mips-sgi-irix6.5) of Fri Mar 9 2001 on anya configured using `configure --verbose --prefix=/usr/net/rnd --package-path=/usr/net/rnd/lib/xemacs --site-includes=/u/turner/Tools/IRIX/include --site-libraries=/u/turner/Tools/IRIX/lib --debug=no --error-checking=none '--cflags=-g -O3'' Recipe: 1. % xemacs -vanilla & 2. % M-x customize-face RET RET 3. click Done 4. don't click or move mouse, but try to move using C-n, C-p, or do C-l or whatever - nothing 5. click mouse, bingo, you're in business again it appears that focus is lost - strangely, though, I see the solid cursor, not the hollow one note that: o I have focus-follows-mouse set in my window manager, and o I have (focus-follows-mouse t) set -- John A. Turner, Ph.D. Senior Research Associate Blue Sky Studios, 44 S. Broadway, White Plains, NY 10601 http://www.blueskystudios.com/ (914) 259-6319