Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com&gt; writes: But not "potentially damaging and very subtle". C-w is *visible*. You misunderstood what I meant by "subtle". C-w is anything but subtle. But it is still quite possible that we will not agree. It is totally non-obvious and requires conscious memorization. As I said, I've memorized it, but I've never really gotten used to it. That kind of non-intuitiveness has nothing to do with safety for small children. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr&gt; | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Try to use "ad nauseam" at least once per flame. It doesn't mean anything; but it gives that polished feel to your postings.