I just built XEmacs 21.0 "Pyrenean-pre9" from scratch. Aside from a couple of cockpit errors, it went wonderfully! Everything compiled fine and the package loading was a dream compared to prior experience. I selected the load site, and away I ... Ooops. Root has no pgp configuration. Copy personal pgp configuration to root. (I'm root and trust all of the same people as root that I do as myself.) Try again. I defaults to loading from the system. Bad! But easily fixed. Selected a download site (again). Updated the package list. (Success!) Selected the desired packages (Wonderful! Fast, easy, Two thumbs up!) Updated all of them! Everything worked flawlessly except me. I would like to see a mention of Options->Manage Packages->Update Package Index. If I understand how all of this works, this is a moderately important function but info does not seem to mention it. (Or did I just miss it?) In any case, I am VERY impressed with pui and must say that it resolves the largest single concern i had about the viability of 21.0. It's still a .0 release and I won't recommend it to everyone, I suspect I WILL recommend 21.1 to everyone. Thanks to everyone who worked on fixing the package problems. (Yes, I see that there are still a few left, but they are minor nits as compared to the situation in pre4.) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman(a)es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634