[21.2, recent CVS update, Irix 6.5.6m, gcc 2.95.2] refer to this thread from xemacs-nt: http://www.xemacs.org/list-archives/xemacs-nt/200008/msg00008.html a followup indicated that it occurs on Unix as well, but I hadn't seen it until recently - the recipe in the msg works, but substitute the X form of the font, e.g. -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-*-*-sans-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" attached are two images that show what happens when flipping between windows in a regular session of XEmacs on Irix for me (not -vanilla) - note the changes in the scrollbar area -- John A. Turner, Ph.D. Senior Research Associate Blue Sky Studios, 44 S. Broadway, White Plains, NY 10601 http://www.blueskystudios.com/ (914) 259-6319