Hello texi-perts! Seems like the info manuals can almost be produced by xemacs -batch, hence removing the requirement for the makeinfo program, provided the man/ Makefiles get adjusted or the step is performed manual (see interactive function `makeinfo-file' atend. Please let me know if you find a flaw with my below assessment and suggestions. Thanks, Adrian Some issues: 1. `batch-texinfo-format' goes into infinite recursion when called with a directory argument. I'll submit a patch for this. This is probably not a critical bug since translating all individual .texi files in a directory will not produce valid info files anyway (e.g. "makeinfo -o internals.info internals.texi" will produce a proper lispref info manual, not "makeinfo *.texi"). 2. I've noticed some breakage in cross-references between manuals for internals lispref new-users-guide xemacs in 21.0-b42 (and 20.3 as well). Please notice the empty fourth argument to many .*ref{} constructs. In places where `emacs' is the fourth agument, it should rather be `xemacs' since there is no emacs.texi in XEmacs. It's called xemacs.texi here. I'll submit a patch the fix these references to work for current filenames used. cd /export/home/tmp/CVSroot/xemacs-20/man/ find . -type d \( -name SCCS -o -name RCS \) -prune -o \( -type f -o -type l \) -name "*.texi" -exec grep -n '(a)[a-z]ref.*,,.*}' "{}" /dev/null \; Compilation started at Mon Jun 8 21:17:24 1998 ./custom.texi:151:＠xref{Sexp Types,,,widget,The Widget Library}, for information about ./texinfo.texi:13767:＠xref{Definition Commands}, and ＠ref{deffnx,, Def Cmds in Detail}. ./texinfo.texi:13833:＠xref{Definition Commands}, and ＠ref{deffnx,, Def Cmds in Detail}. ./texinfo.texi:13855:＠xref{Definition Commands}, and ＠ref{deffnx,, Def Cmds in Detail}. ./texinfo.texi:13941:＠xref{dots,,＠code{＠＠dots＠{＠}}}. ./texinfo.texi:14252:＠xref{pounds,,＠code{＠＠pounds＠{＠}}}. ./texinfo.texi:14355:Generate a minimal title page. ＠xref{titlepage,,＠code{＠＠titlepage}}. ./internals/internals.texi:5734:case. ＠xref{Case Tables,,, lispref, XEmacs Lisp Programmer's Manual}. ./internals/internals.texi:5738:case. ＠xref{Case Tables,,, lispref, XEmacs Lisp Programmer's Manual}. ./internals/internals.texi:5747:＠xref{Case Tables,,, lispref, XEmacs Lisp Programmer's Manual}. ./internals/internals.texi:5758:＠xref{Markers,,, lispref, XEmacs Lisp Programmer's Manual}. ./lispref/commands.texi:2301: ＠xref{Disabling,,, emacs, The XEmacs Reference Manual}, for the details on ./lispref/frames.texi:142:created. ＠xref{Resources X,, X Resources, emacs, The XEmacs User's Manual}. ./lispref/os.texi:198: ＠xref{Init File Examples,,, emacs, The XEmacs Reference Manual}, for ./lispref/text.texi:1135:boundaries. ＠xref{Paragraphs,,, emacs, The XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/custom1.texi:147:mode. ＠xref{Major Modes,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more ./new-users-guide/custom2.texi:197:file. ＠xref{Variables,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for information on ./new-users-guide/custom2.texi:427:＠xref{Init File,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. You should also look at ./new-users-guide/edit.texi:85:＠xref{Filling,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for information on using Auto Fill ./new-users-guide/edit.texi:290: ＠xref{Undoing Changes,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more information on ./new-users-guide/enter.texi:124:again. ＠xref{Exiting Emacs,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/enter.texi:171:in ＠var{buf}. ＠xref{Buffers,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/files.texi:74:＠xref{File Names,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/files.texi:200:＠xref{Reverting,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/files.texi:212:backups, ＠xref{Backup,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/files.texi:222:auto-saving, ＠xref{Auto Save Files,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/files.texi:231:editing, ＠xref{Interlocking,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/modes.texi:69:commands. ＠xref{Nroff Mode,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for information ./new-users-guide/modes.texi:103:commands. ＠xref{C Indent,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/modes.texi:114:information on this mode, ＠xref{Fortran,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/modes.texi:119:text characters. ＠xref{Picture,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more ./new-users-guide/modes.texi:219: ＠xref{Abbrevs,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more information on this ./new-users-guide/region.texi:103: ＠xref{Selecting Text with the Mouse,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for ./new-users-guide/region.texi:125:region. ＠xref{Killing,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more information. ./new-users-guide/region.texi:141:＠xref{Indentation,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more information. ./new-users-guide/region.texi:227:＠xref{Accumulating Text,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more ./new-users-guide/region.texi:231:areas of text. ＠xref{Rectangles,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more ./new-users-guide/region.texi:239:manipulate registers ＠xref{Registers,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/new-users-guide.texi:224:commands relevant to a topic. ＠xref{Help,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/new-users-guide.texi:234:＠xref{Customization,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/search.texi:75:expressions, ＠xref{Search,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}. ./new-users-guide/xmenu.texi:103:＠xref{Sending Mail,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for information on how ./new-users-guide/xmenu.texi:302:applications. ＠xref{X Clipboard Selection,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, ./new-users-guide/xmenu.texi:389:on. ＠xref{Customization,,,,XEmacs User's Manual}, for more ./xemacs/files.texi:187:prints a warning message. ＠xref{Interlocking,,Simultaneous Editing}. ./xemacs/files.texi:370:＠xref{Interlocking,, Simultaneous Editing}. ./xemacs/glossary.texi:218:＠xref{ListDir,,Directories}. ./xemacs/glossary.texi:313:that character (in ordinary editing modes). ＠xref{Basic,,Basic Editing}. ./xemacs/glossary.texi:656:user to investigate them. ＠xref{Interlocking,,Simultaneous Editing}. ./xemacs/killing.texi:753:＠xref{RegRect,,Rectangle Registers}. igrep finished at Mon Jun 8 21:17:32 3. Would it be desireable to remove the dependency on `makeinfo' and use "xemacs -no-site-file -no-init-file -batch -l texinfmt -f \ batch-texinfo-format FILE" instead? I couldn't get makeinfo.exe compiled on Windows NT, so this seems a worthwhile approach to me. Here is what I use successfully on UNIX and NT as well: (defun makeinfo-file (file) "Run XEmacs in batch-mode in a compilation buffer to produce info files from Texinfo input FILE." (interactive "fXEmacs Texinfo file: ") (cd (file-name-directory file)) (compile (concat (expand-file-name "../src/xemacs" source-directory) " -no-site-file -no-init-file" " -batch -l texinfmt -f batch-texinfo-format" " " file))) 4. texinfmt.el does not support ＠uref and support for ＠email is rudimentary. I may submit a patch for that as well. 5. Should we introduce angle brackets around email addresses? Any comments? -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Straße 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MÜNCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com