APA> Stephen, or anyone else in Japan, could you please try the APA> Japanese package sites and provide us feedback. These sites all work and are fast by "eyeball check". ("Japan (aist.go.jp)" "ring.aist.go.jp" "pub/text/xemacs/packages") ("Japan (dti.ad.jp)" "ftp.dti.ad.jp" "pub/unix/editor/xemacs/packages") ("Japan (sut.ac.jp)" "sunsite.sut.ac.jp" "pub/archives/packages/xemacs/packages") These sites have removed their XEmacs content. At JAIST even the xemacs directory is gone; and at jp.xemacs the xemacs directory is there but all content has been removed. They probably should be commented out pending an inquiry to the host administrator. (The latter really pisses me off; not only have they trashed my favorite project, but they've hosted two of those "login by password on SSH" worms in the last month. Get a clue, guys!) ("Japan (jaist.ac.jp)" "ftp.jaist.ac.jp" "pub/GNU/xemacs/packages") ("Japan (jp.xemacs.org)" "ftp.jp.xemacs.org" "pub/GNU/xemacs/packages") These sites were down when I tried them. I'll need to investigate NUCBA, but the RING sites should all be the same (that's why they're called "ring"). So I would say leave "mirror.nucba.ac.jp" _out_ and "ring.asahi-net.or.jp" _in_ until further notice. (It's your call though, you know more about usage patterns than I do.) - ("Japan (nucba.ac.jp)" "mirror.nucba.ac.jp" "mirror/xemacs/packages") +; ("Japan (nucba.ac.jp)" "mirror.nucba.ac.jp" "mirror/xemacs/packages") ("Japan (asahi-net.or.jp)" "ring.asahi-net.or.jp" "pub/text/xemacs/packages") -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.