kk> Hi. I'm maintainer & committer of FreeBSD XEmacs ports. Now kk> while I stripped to see XEmacs web and ftp sites, new release kk> version named 21.4.* already released. As long as kk> http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.0.html says, it seems that kk> gamma version will be maintained from hereafter forever. Is kk> that true? If that true, I intend to make xemacs-devel-* ports kk> and commit it. The current state is 21.1.14 is the stable release. There will be one more release, 21.1.15, in this series. We will continue to support it only in the sense that we'll answer usage questions, but it is unlikely that there will be any further releases after that. It should be very easy to update an existing 21.1.* port to 21.1.15 when it is released. The "gamma" branch is the stable candidate. On most platforms in most usages it _is_ stable. There are a few more bugs to shake out, but mostly it is an excellent platform for daily use. Once these bugs have been tracked down, 21.4.x will be designated "stable". The 21.4 series will be maintained, with new releases to fix bugs as appropriate, for at least another year. I recommend that you either make this the primary version for ports now, or after one or two more releases. 21.4.4 is scheduled for Monday, mostly MS Windows-related changes, and there will be a 21.4.5 in about 4 weeks, depending on some annoying bugs in the text syntax module used for fontlock, etc. 21.4.5 is likely to be the first release or 21.4 designated "stable". The beta branch is 21.5, on the CVS trunk. This is very unstable, with API and UI changes in every release. I doubt it would be worth tracking this in a port. This code is unlikely to be released for general usage (ie, "gamma") for several months at current pace of development. If this doesn't answer your question, I'll be happy to clarify any unclear points. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."

kk> At Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:36:33 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull kk> <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp&gt; wrote: kk> Does it means that current gamma one is substantially `stable' kk> and present ports-current's editors/xemacs21* ports should be kk> changed up to 21.4.*? Yes. kk> I want to know that it is meaningless or not both `stable' and kk> 'gamma' exist in FreeBSD ports-tree -- in other words people kk> who uses XEmacs-21.1.14 from reasons for expecting reliability kk> should not be change to XEmacs-21.4.3? 21.4.4 will be out very soon, probably Monday evening Japan time. It has some important fixes for Cyrillic, Japanese, and fontification in programming modes. 21.4.5 will be out in a few weeks (around August 20, I hope). It is likely there will be more fixes for fontification. I think it is reasonable to make the switch with 21.4.4 for FreeBSD, which I believe has no known build problems or crashes. A very convervative maintainer would wait for 21.4.5. After that, 21.1.x will likely be considered obsolete. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."

kiri(a)pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp writes: funny thing about an hour ago i ws thing about how to do a FreeBSD port for the beta versions of XEmacs thinking of using cvs to do the updates to the sourcecode with my not complete knowledge of FreeBSD ports the devel version should compile the beta version (21.5.1b) of XEmacs -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Brown Web Programmer/Sys Admin/Apache Admin Education Development Web peter(a)edw.com.au www.edw.com.au rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 20 Jul 2001 11:06:56 +0200, Adrian Aichner wrote: Hi Adrian. Is that mean FreeBSD itself(http://www.freebsd.org/) or ports(http://www.freebsd.org/ports/)? 21.1.14 has been ported. For more information please see FreeBSD CVSweb for ports : http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/xemacs21/ I see. Ok I would like to up XEmacs ports up to 21.4.3 and prepare to relase for 21.5. I intended those for XEmacs-21.4.x ports against to `stable' 21.1.x ports. But those are meaningless, aren't they.