At 08:46 AM 7/21/99 -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: I think this would be way ugly and an even worse visual metphor than Ben and Bill are complaining about. Redisplay currently considers toolbar + window + modeline + minibuffer as a whole from the toolkit perspective. So tabbing this would mean you would get the toolbar etc inside the tabs - very wierd IMHO. Also what do you do with split windows - again this breaks the metaphor. If you tab on a per-window basis, a) you have to change redisplay a lot b) what do you do about split windows. I think leaving the tab area of control slightly ambiguous actualy *helps* in our rather strange XEmacs environment. This will be doable eventually anyway. You will eventually be able to embed image instances inside others so that you could put subwindows inside tabs, or anything you like. Sure. The code is semi-there its a matter of wiring it all up. I'm hoping that as a we approach crtical mass, others will tweak the X-side to get it looking and behaving correctly. andy -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Andy Piper Senior Consultant Architect, BEA Systems Ltd