Hrvoje> Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com&gt; writes: Hrvoje> "c:\\Winnt\\Profiles\\AichnerA\\autosave\\#c:\\Winnt\\Profiles\\AichnerA\\N Hrvoje> ews\\drafts\\drafts\\1#" Hrvoje> Is that the default? Why is auto-save-directory set to Hrvoje> anything other than nil? It defaults to nil under Unix. Hello Hrvoje, Umpf! Thanks for pointing this out. As a service to he XEmacs community I load sample.emacs from within my site-start.el and go from there. This way I notice if some recommended practice changes or sample.emacs breaks so some reason or other. sample.emacs changes auto-save defaults. Yesterday I tried customizing the variables in question via customize-variable but these customizations didn't show up in .emacs. Today, encouraged by your mail, I tried again and all is just dandy! All the customizations are there: cd C:\Winnt\Profiles\AichnerA\ egrep -ni "auto-save|custom" .emacs NUL Compilation started at Sun Oct 11 23:15:54 1998 .emacs:124:(custom-set-variables .emacs:137: '(auto-save-timeout 30 t) .emacs:168: '(auto-save-interval 100) .emacs:170: '(auto-save-directory nil) .emacs:200: '(auto-save-file-format t) .emacs:262: '(auto-save-offer-delete t) grep finished (22 matches found) at Sun Oct 11 23:15:55 My analysis of what happened yesterday is this: I probably had set the variables with set-variable before invoking customize-variable. Since custom didn't change the variable, it didn't care to save it when I pushed the "Save" button. We can write this off as a cockpit error, I guess. Thanks for your help, Hrvoje! Adrian Hrvoje> Perhaps under Windows we should default `auto-save-hash-p' Hrvoje> so that setting `auto-save-directory' works? But I don't Hrvoje> like doing that if there is another solution, because the Hrvoje> docs say that auto-save-hash-p defeats Hrvoje> `recover-all-files'. Thanks for pointing this out. I agree that nil is a good default worth keeping. Hrvoje> That "workaround" is actually the default behaviour under Hrvoje> Unix. Hrvoje> No, because then you wouldn't be able to differentiate Hrvoje> between the autosave for c:\foo and the autosave for Hrvoje> d:\foo. Yep. Hrvoje> What on earth do you mean by that? Are you sure you I thought the comment indicated the variable couldn't be changed and saved via customize. This was probably due to my cockpit error, described above. Hrvoje> understood the quoted comment? Probably not. Hrvoje> `M-x customize-variable RET auto-save-directory RET' Hrvoje> should also work. Yes, it does today, now that I did it right. Hrvoje> Is `defcustom' defined at the time auto-save is loaded? Dunno. Hrvoje> auto-save-timeout *is* a customizable variable. I'm not Hrvoje> sure why it's not initialized via `defcustom'. However, Hrvoje> `M-x customize-variable RET auto-save-timeout RET' will do Hrvoje> the right thing. Same as above. This works fine. Hrvoje> -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr&gt; | Student at FER Hrvoje> Zagreb, Croatia Hrvoje> --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Hrvoje> If anything goes wrong, blame the random-number generator! -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com