so I know have my packages in /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages why does it need to be xemacs twice ? Why did it change (I'm not arguing against it, just interested) --- Ian ************************************************************* NOTE: The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not read, use or disseminate that information. Any opinions or advice contained in this email are not necessarily those of Telia UK Ltd. Although this email and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Telia UK Ltd for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. www.telia.co.uk *************************************************************