2:59 a.m.
Uwe Brauer writes:
Maybe I did not compile 21.5.29 correctly:
I think this may be a long-standing bug in XEmacs Customize. You need
to specify --with-widgets=$TOOLKIT in order to get display of the
buttons that are implemented as native button widgets.
but when I try to use customize-option, say the Set Save and Done
button, which I see in 21.4.22 are not there, (the reset button is)
and therefore I cannot make any changes.
As a workaround, you can still use the [State] "button":
,----
| This is a customization buffer.
| Type RET or click button2 on an active field to invoke its action.
| Invoke [Help] for more information.
|
| Operate on everything in this buffer:
| reset
|
| Reftex Include File Commands: *
| [INS] [DEL] String: include
| [INS] [DEL] String: input
| [INS] [DEL] String: subfile
| [INS]
| [State]: this option has been set and saved.
A
|
right here
To invoke it you TAB to it then use RET to display an action menu.
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5:34 p.m.
> Regarding [Bug: 21.5-b29] customize: Set Save Done button
disappeared; "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> adds:
Uwe Brauer writes:
> Maybe I did not compile 21.5.29 correctly:
I think this may be a long-standing bug in XEmacs Customize. You
need
to specify --with-widgets=$TOOLKIT in order to get display of the
buttons that are implemented as native button widgets.
Hm but in 21.4 it works? Here are the configuration
parameters,
For 21.5.29 (compiled by myself)
./configure '--with-mule' '--with-xim' '--with-xfs'
'--with-optimization' '--without-error-checking'
'--with-toolbars' '--with-xpm' '--with-xface'
And here is the official (debian/ubuntu) 21.4.22:
./configure '--with-sound=none,native' '--with-x11'
'--extra-verbose' '--with-site-lisp'
'--with-database=berkdb' '--statedir=/var/lib'
'--infodir=/usr/share/info/xemacs21'
'--infopath=/usr/share/info/xemacs21' '--prefix=/usr'
'--dynamic' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no'
'--with-pop' '--with-file-coding' '--pdump'
'--with-system-malloc' '--with_menubars=lucid'
'--with_scrollbars=lucid' '--with_dialogs=athena'
'--docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.22/i486-linux-gnu/mule/'
'--with-mule' '--with-canna=no' '--with-wnn=no'
'--with-xim=xlib' '--with-xfs'
'--package-path=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages:~/.xemacs/xemacs-packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/mule-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/xemacs-packages'
'i486-linux-gnu'
So I don't see a widget call there, but maybe
--with_menubars=lucid'
'--with_scrollbars=lucid' '--with_dialogs=athena'
is the thing to use?
Uwe Brauer
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Uwe Brauer writes:
Hm but in 21.4 it works?
21.4 was released more than 10 years ago. There have been an awful
lot of changes to 21.5 since then.
Here are the configuration parameters,
That's not interesting, because some features are automatically
detected and installed, even if you didn't ask for them. We need to
see Installation, which will tell us what widget set, if any, is in
use.
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New subject: widgets & configure (was: [Bug: 21.5-b29] customize: Set Save Done button disappeared)
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:59:26 +0900, "Stephen J.
Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> wrote:
Uwe Brauer writes:
> Maybe I did not compile 21.5.29 correctly:
I think this may be a long-standing bug in XEmacs Customize. You
need
to specify --with-widgets=$TOOLKIT in order to get display of the
buttons that are implemented as native button widgets.
I finally tried to re compile xemacs 21.5.29 with the
widgets in.
But which widgets I have to specify?? the documentation does
not specify it.
I tried the configure from xemacs21.4.22 ("provided" by
debian, that is the way debian configured 21.4.22.
They have besides other things:
'--with-toolbars=lucid' '--with_menubars=lucid'
But lucid is no longer supported, what would be an
alternative?
BTW are the following options recommendable?
./configure '--extra-verbose' '--dynamic'
'--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--with-pop'
'--with-file-coding' '--pdump' '--with-system-malloc'
'--with_dialogs=athena' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-xfs'
Uwe Brauer
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New subject: widgets & configure (was: [Bug: 21.5-b29] customize: Set Save Done button disappeared)
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:59:26 +0900, "Stephen J.
Turnbull" <
stephen(a)xemacs.org> wrote:
> Uwe Brauer writes:
>> Maybe I did not compile 21.5.29 correctly:
> I think this may be a long-standing bug in XEmacs Customize. You need
> to specify --with-widgets=$TOOLKIT in order to get display of the
> buttons that are implemented as native button widgets.
I finally tried to re compile xemacs 21.5.29 with the
widgets in.
But which widgets I have to specify?? the documentation does
not specify it.
Is it necessary to specify? I've been building xemacs beta using just
'--with-mule' '--with-xft=emacs,menubars,tabs'
for quite a while now and the buttons show up for me. The Installation
file says that Motif dialog boxes and native widgets are being used. (I
installed Motif (lesstif) because something else needed it, I think.)
Ray
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New subject: widgets & configure (was: [Bug: 21.5-b29] customize: Set Save Done button disappeared)
Uwe Brauer writes:
'--with-toolbars=lucid' '--with_menubars=lucid'
But lucid is no longer supported, what would be an
alternative?
Huh? What do you mean Lucid is not supported?
It may not work for --with-widgets (I think it's equivalent to
'athena' though); ./configure --help will tell you exactly what
options are available. I believe athena, motif, and gtk are the
options on X. If you compile with GTK you must use the 'gtk' option
for all GUI things AFAIK. Otherwise it's possible to mix and match
motif and athena (at the cost of some bloat).
If you have a 3d athena available (most common is Xaw3d, but configure
--help will tell you several others are supported if you have them and
their -dev packages installed), --with-athena=3d will make XEmacs look
a lot nicer. (If you use a different 3D Athena, then the '3d' part
will change, eg --with-athena=xaw gives traditional "flat" Athena
widgets.)
BTW are the following options recommendable?
./configure '--extra-verbose'
Only if you like wallowing in autoconf output.
'--dynamic'
A no-op on Linux.
'--error-checking=none' '--debug=no'
These need to be spelled --with-error-checking and --with-debug now, I
think. --with-error-checking=none will speed up XEmacs by 3-5% in
most workloads, and isn't very risky (it's mostly useful to developers
because if XEmacs is going to crash it usually crashes more quickly
and more usefully, but it also can crash when nothing is really
wrong).
I strongly recommend --with-debug=yes if you want useful
help from us in the event of a crash.
'--with-pop'
If you use POP3 mailboxes from VM or Gnus this may be useful.
'--with-file-coding'
You really want --with-mule, which implies --with-file-coding.
'--pdump' '--with-system-malloc'
These are no-ops on Linux (they are the defaults).
'--with_dialogs=athena'
This should match the widget set you specify for --with-widgets.
'--with-xim=xlib'
This probably can't hurt, and you *may* need it for non-English input
(but probably not).
'--with-xfs'
No, don't use this. It conflicts with --with-xft (configure will emit
a fatal error if both are specified, I think), and not at all well-
supported, anyway.
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