Re: minor points regarding initialization files

Lynn> Typically Macs are used by only one user, so having stuff out in Lynn> /usr-land so others can see it is not usually necessary. Come to think Lynn> of it, I could probably use a configure option to install somewhere Lynn> beneath my home directory. I think I used to do that, but haven't for a Lynn> long time. When I used to install xemacs for many users, I put stuff in share/xemacs/site-lisp. (Or whatever; it's been a long time since I had to do this). Lynn> My way of dealing with site-lisp that has long been to put all that Lynn> stuff either in ~/.xemacs or ~/.xemacs/site-packages, which I discovered Lynn> by experimentation automatically becomes included in load-path. I put everything there nowadays. Lynn> So question 2b has to do with site-start.el. I seem to remember that at Lynn> least in ancient times xemacs would look (first?) for a file Lynn> site-start.el(c) in its load-path, and would run that stuff first. There Lynn> is no such file in the default installation, so I guess it's up to users Lynn> who want one to create one. Lynn> I do, because I use it to put some defuns that are extremely useful Lynn> during initialization, and also to declare some global properties up Lynn> front, also key bindings for eval-region and eval-print-last-sexp, Lynn> useful in debugging startups. Lynn> Is site-start.el(c) automatically loaded -- first -- if I don't Lynn> explicitly load it? I gather it is *not* -- otherwise xemacs -q would be Lynn> prone to frequent failures. Lynn> My brute force way of dealing with that has in the past been to put the Lynn> following as the first form in my init.el: Lynn> (load-library "site-start") I vaguely remember editing site-start.el. I also vaguely remember it used to be loaded automatically. My memory on this is very vague; I probably last dealt with this 10-15 years ago. It seems much less useful if every user has to do (load-library "site-start"). But, as you say, machines are mostly single-user boxes, so I don't care too much about these things and put everything in my .xemacs. If I ever have to manage multiple users using xemacs on the same machine, I would want site-start to work again. Ray _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta