Re: [Bug: 21.4.18] frequent crashes

zooko> A typical crash is that I start xemacs, type "M-q zooko> erc-serve[TAB]", which expands to "erc-server-select", and zooko> then I hit [RETURN] and then XEmacs disappears. Curiously, zooko> there is no message in the bash shell where I started it zooko> indicating how it exited. That is: it is not a segfault, zooko> or bash would report it. Try starting XEmacs under gdb, something like $ gdb `which xemacs` gdb> run should do the trick. If gdb can't catch the crash, there's something very strange going on! It would be nice if you could try this in an XEmacs that hasn't been stripped of symbols, and get a backtrace (backtraces are not very useful without symbols, unfortunately). Red Hat has apparently figured out how to provide debug packages for applications that contain the symbol table, but I don't see one for XEmacs in Debian, so it's probably not in Ubuntu either. Please check, though. It's reasonably easy to build from source in Debian, and a simple modification to the control files in the source tree's debian subdirectory will allow you to skip the stripping step. (IIRC, you just comment out the dhstrip command in debian/rules.) Maybe Ubuntu has inherited the same system? -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.