>>>> "Mike" == Mike Kupfer
<mike.kupfer(a)sun.com> writes:
[As long as I've got your attention, any well-known
free-as-in-free-beer products you'd like to be submitting bugs to, or
would like to avoid? Ignore what I said about my preferences for this
purpose.:-]
Mike> For many bugs, [stellar implosion] could well be what happens.
There's no question about it. We *had* a GNATS BTS until about 1998,
and a Jitterbug BTS 1997-1999; neither was *ever* consulted by any
developer since I joined xemacs-beta in late 1996, AFAIK. I don't
think Martin Buchholz (the all-time champion XEmacs bug-stomper) even
had a Jitterbug login.
Mike> But for bugs where it's not immediately obvious what the
Mike> problem is, or how to fix it, a bug tracker provides a
Mike> convenient place to put all the notes related to the bug.
Mike> Having all the information in one place (as opposed to
Mike> spread across multiple months in the mail archives) can help
Mike> with root causing. It can also help newcomers come up to
Mike> speed.
All true, if developers are actually using the BTS. But if they are
not, the information tends not to collect in one place; it gets spread
across a bunch of uncorrelated bugs.
Our current workflow does not revolve around a BTS (obviously :-( ),
and for the reasons I've given, I don't expect that to change even if
we had a BTS.
If somebody or several somebodies were to commit to being
bugtracker(s), then we could start to push the workflow in that
direction. Python-dev, for example, has a guy who collects all the
recent BTS activity and publishes a summary once a week on Python-dev.
That would work, if we got *reliable* weekly or fortnightly reports.
But I believe that commitment is necessary, and I'm unwilling to make
it myself.
Now, anyway. Maybe I'll do something about a BTS in the summer, just
for kicks. But I'd really rather have somebody who's more optimistic,
and thus more motivated, pushing the work forward.
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