Re: ha ha, only serious

Jamie> Hey, have you guys considered ripping out XEmacs's Jamie> redisplay and just using KHTML? On second thought, following up on your own "notably, neither [this] nor [that] are on this list" logic, what problems does this solve? I can see that it would surely fix the show-stopping "infinite X protocol from an unchanged window" bug, and you're welcome to emphasize that with a "Yes, dammit!" But I can't help feeling there are more straightforward ways to address that bug, that might even get into an XEmacs you can use this year. (I will personally keep this approach in mind, though.) So, what _else_? On the other side.... I have to wonder how we go about linking markers, text properties, and extents to things KHTML knows about? Note that according to DESIGN.html the internal DOM object is not available to KHTML at all, only implicitly via the Javascript bindings. (Sorry, Bill.) We'd be committed to maintaining an interface to the---deliberately unexported, op. cit.---internals, at least, and maybe our own version of KHTML. I suspect this is going to be true of most advanced redisplays; the work there seems to be on browsers and word processors, not on powerful-editor-as-IDE. Would anybody want to program in any of the fancy word processors now available (let alone the Mozilla text widget)? Today's XEmacs redisplay is undoubtedly an overcomplexified monstrosity, but I can't help feeling that some of the complexity is a reflection of complex problems being solved. KHTML itself also surely depends on the Qt libraries. That means we cannot link on Windows at least (unless the licensing for Qt has changed since we last discussed a Qt port). Is Qt GPL-compatible on Apple platforms? Anyway, so much for portability benefits (not to mention the sure opposition of at least two of our most active coders). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.