Re: Why do all the XEmacs defaults suck? (was Re: Why using (push-mark) ?)

sb> Um, no holds barred, please feel free to flame away. After 'xemacs -vanilla' on a Linux tty, M-x edit-faces shows me something like Face Foreground Background Font Spec dired-face-permissions black nil normal which doesn't show up too well. Would nil nil be better? Under X after 'xrdb -load /dev/null ; /usr/bin/xemacs -vanilla &', M-x edit faces shows dired-face-symlink cyan gray80 -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* which looks pretty indistinct to me. Can anyone see that combination clearly? Blue doesn't seem to be overworked among the dired faces, would that be better?