>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper
<andy(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Andy> At 20:24 14/01/01 +0900, Martin Buchholz wrote:
> NEWS file, turn off widgets by default, leave pdump off by
> default (on
Andy> I'd really like us to revisit this since we have never
Andy> actually made a decision. I believe that I have nuked pretty
Andy> much all the widget bugs in the X version as well as the
Andy> windows version - so I would like to know what in particular
Andy> means that we have to switch it off by default?
I'm sorry, maybe this is my bad. Perhaps I should have clarified the
policy earlier, but I've been hoping for discussion from the Board.
Martin has expressed his opinion several times. The only support for
it is his unquestioned general expertise, to which I have given due
consideration.
Against that, he has pointed to no specific bugs or incompletenesses.
In favor of continuing present policy (detailed below), I count
o the unanimous silence of the rest of the Board as tacit assent
o the expert opinions of the implementors of each feature as clear
indicators in favor, and
o the fact that the very risky features are on CVS branches and not
planned for immediate merge to the release line as reason for
delaying decision on those until we've got something to look at.
As of right now
0. The proposal, which was not disapproved by the Review Board
and I am therefore implementing, was to take big risks for the
potential big wins of "GTK" and "Mule on NT," moderate risks
for the very nice features "pdump" and "widgets," and minor
risks for the remaining recently finished or nearly done stuff.
This remains Release Manager policy. It is subject to Board
override or me changing my mind. I've seen no hard evidence
to make me change my mind, and no sign whatsoever of a Board
minority against it, let alone enough of a majority to be
called an "override."
Specifically:
1. The widgets are _in_ the release and _on_ by default on all
platforms until I see either (a) bug reports that indicates
that they shouldn't be (Martin's whinging is not a bug report)
or (b) a Board override. Tester releases will reflect this.
2. A similar policy applies to the portable dumper.
Martin, please make configure{.in,} reflect the above policy. (If you
haven't time, I'll do the best I can, but I don't have a lot of
experience hacking configure.)
As for the big risky features:
3. Mule on NT is _in_ the release, but the merge work will be
done on a branch. If the merge is going to be as late as Ben
currently believes, it will _not_ be merged into the release
branch. Then it becomes Martin's problem, or my successor's
if we are so lucky as to find one. The next decision point is
when Ben asks for a merge or Feb 1, whichever comes first.
4. A similar policy and decision date applies to GTK.
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