Re: Mule autodetection is crap

Frank> That's what's pissing me off. He writes an extremely buggy Frank> new mule which no one else understands and which lacks Frank> essential features and then doesn't care about it anymore. That's not true. What is true is that XEmacs 21.5 is a development series, and the developers reserve the right to work on what they think is important in their own time. Ben has probably produced about 200,000 lines of patches since the Mule workspace merge. It just happens that few of them are directly Mule-related. That's the way he works: he concentrates on one big change per workspace. Admittedly, this has pretty much the same effect on users as "not caring." But nobody has claimed that 21.5 is "suitable for daily use" yet, let alone promised support. For many purposes it's fine for daily use; several of the developers use it pretty much exclusively. For you, it's not. I'm sorry about that---I'd like to see all of the features being developed at about five times the current rate, and most especially Mule, which I use heavily---but I don't see what you're "pissed off" about. Frank> Katsumi Yamaoka reports several times that 2.5 is Frank> absolutely broken and unusable for Japanese users, no Frank> reaction. That's an exaggeration. It may be unusable for Katsumi and similar users, but I don't find it unusable, and I do use Japanese on a daily basis with 21.5. It's clear from patch submissions that there are other Japanese users actively working with XEmacs 21.5. Frank> Well, Gnu Emacs can now display images under MS Windows and Frank> works generally faster and more stable, so I'll probably Frank> switch over Christmas. If GNU's image support is sufficient for you, please do use it. I think I speak for all the developers when I say that we really appreciate your bug reports, and we plan to address them in appropriate sequence with other work. And I hope that you will check out XEmacs 21.5 again in, say, mid-March, by which time I expect another wave of Mule work to have been committed. But you should use the tool that gets the job done for you. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.